On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:09:29 +0100, Recliner
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:41:21 +0200, Water musician
wrote:

On 2 Aug 2017, Recliner wrote
(in
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september.org):

Basil wrote:

Unfortunately they've used Gill Sans rather than Johnson,
making the memorial a bit crapper than it should have been. This is in
Chester-Le-Street in Co Durham.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXNZOkxjuev/

Would they be allowed to use Johnston (not Johnson)? TfL owns the
copyright, and I think it controls the font's use very tightly.

The TfL font is New Johnston, which was a “modernised” and then digitised
version of the original, with minor stylistic changes, although I can’t
remember the details.

Actually, TfL has moved on from New Johnston to Johnston100:
http://www.monotype.com/resources/case-studies/introducing-johnston100-the-language-of-london/

Licensing is controlled – you can’t just buy it. You have to apply to TfL
giving the reasons you need it. If they agree, you pay for the licence and
then it used to arrive on CD.

Perhaps TfL would be unenthusiastic about its use on a public
lavatory?


But there are a couple of commercial versions available which are
distinguishable from the “real thing” only by a few of the folk here and
people who could be described as professional typographers (or designers with
a special interest in type).

Yes, a professional designer ought to have used one of those.


ITC Johnston is part of the Monotype Library - I think individual weights are
about ¢30-35 each as Open Type

There is also P22 Underground and Underground Pro which IIRC are licensed by
the Museum – digitised from the original Johnson.

In the American (slang) sense, one would use their Johnson in a
lavatory...