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Default Oyster and Contactless on NR

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 20:27:25 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:42:42 +0100, David Walters
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:43:30 -0500, wrote:
I thought when the Mayor wanted to extend Oyster to National Rail route in
London ATOC insisted that railcards had to be recognised and discounts
given. So the system to register railcards on Oyster cards was somewhat
haphazardly introduced. For example you couldn't check railcard registration
status at a ticket machine. It was only when they decided to close all the
ticket offices that they had to make it possible as it now is.

But for people living outside London who aren't regular visitors contactless
became a much better option when introduced unless you are a railcard holder
because, although Oyster cards have to be registered to get railcard
discounts, they have not enabled railcard discounts against Contactless
travel.


Perhaps because there is no way for an on-board ticket inspection to
confirm the person using the contactless card is the owner, and in
possession, of the relevant railcard? In theory a ticket check of an
Oyster card can flag the railcard which the ticket inspector would then
ask to see.


I don't see the problem. The railcard must still be brought along for
the journey.


How would the ticket inspector know to ask to see a railcard if a
contactless card was used?

If an Oyster card has a railcard discount set then there is a flag on
the card which I assume is visible on the inspectors handheld reader. TfL
can't set a flag on contactless cards.
 
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