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On 2017-09-19 06:31:59 +0000, Roland Perry said:

If a bus has a "number" from the local fare stage operator, I don't see
why not.

On the other hand, outside London they are often privately run by other
companies, with specific termly season tickets.


They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a
cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the
public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another
question.

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In message , at 09:19:36 on Tue, 19
Sep 2017, Neil Williams remarked:
If a bus has a "number" from the local fare stage operator, I don't
see why not.
On the other hand, outside London they are often privately run by
other companies, with specific termly season tickets.


They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a
cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the
public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another
question.


Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London.

Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils
with season tickets only".
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On 2017-09-19 16:27:05 +0000, Roland Perry said:

Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London.


Outside London is my main experience. All the MK ones are stage
carriage services which you can, if you wish, use yourself. Though I
don't think many people do, because they aren't really convenient, and
who wants to share their journey to work with a load of loud schoolkids
anyway?

Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils
with season tickets only".


Some are like that, but BSOG cannot be claimed, so they are more costly
to operate, having to pay fuel tax in full.

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In message , at 20:28:08 on Tue, 19
Sep 2017, Neil Williams remarked:

Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils
with season tickets only".


Some are like that, but BSOG cannot be claimed, so they are more costly
to operate, having to pay fuel tax in full.


I can believe they don't claim, given the high cost of many such student
seasons - which despite a guaranteed monthly income from a full load can
easily be in the region of a fiver per kid per day.
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"Roland Perry" wrote

They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically a
cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether the
public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another
question.


Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London.


Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils with
season tickets only".


Nope, Surrey do it both ways and of course accept ENCTS passes

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/schools-...-serve-schools

The list does not include coach and taxi services provided by Surrey County
Council, as they are not available to the general public.
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https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-an...timetables#635

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-an...timetables#678



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In message , at 03:23:14 on Wed, 20
Sep 2017, Michael R N Dolbear remarked:



"Roland Perry" wrote

They are usually open to the public so BSOG can be claimed (typically
a cash fare is paid by a member of the public using one). Whether
the public would want to go within 100 miles of them is quite another
question.


Do you mean the red London ones, or outside London.


Having looked at numerous of the latter earlier, they are all "pupils
with season tickets only".


Nope, Surrey do it both ways and of course accept ENCTS passes

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/schools-...chool-transpor
t/local-bus-services-which-serve-schools


That's the opposite of what we've been taking about - regular stage
buses which just happen to have schools on their route.

The list does not include coach and taxi services provided by Surrey
County Council, as they are not available to the general public.


And those are the ones we *are* talking about.
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