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Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:12:31 GMT
Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\09\20 14:41, Offramp wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 14:07:03 UTC+1, wrote: I doubt all the people who get off the picc at finsbury are specifically going to a victoria line station. I can imagine someone who lives at Cockfosters and works at Hyde Park Corner travelling Cockfosters - Finsbury Park, FP (Vic) - Green Park and walking. Was that "can" supposed to be "can't"? Oggy Circus and Victoria are two of the four busiest tube stations: Waterloo is another, and the easiest route from Cockfosters involves taking the Vic from Finny P to Oggy C. If I'd got a seat on the Picc from Cockfosters, I'd stay seated in reasonable comfort on the train all the way to Hyde Park corner, rather than having to stand on a packed Victoria line train from Finsbury Park to Green Park, and then having a 10 min walk to Hyde Park Corner (maybe in the rain) that more than wasted the few minutes I'd saved standing on the Victoria line train. I suppose it depends if you value comfort over time. Personally I've got better things to do than spend an extra 10-15 mins trundling through the west end on the piccadilly line. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:53:15 -0700 (PDT)
Offramp wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:34:39 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote: The working timetables are all online at https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publica...ing-timetables Krapy Rubsnif to Kings Cross: Vic = 310 seconds N/B or 315 seconds S/B Picc = 7.5 minutes N/B or 8 minutes S/B About 2.5 minutes difference KX to Green Park: Vic = 400 seconds N/B or 390 seconds S/B Picc = 10 minutes N/B or 9.5 minutes S/B About 3.5 minutes difference Those are the official times. The OP thinks that Picc trains are running much slower in real life, causing people to bail out at Finsbury. They are. Often they'll sit at finsbury on the S/B for 1-2 minutes presumably to "regulate the service" (ie sort out their timetable ****ups) and then you'll have the endless delays up to KX and through the west end. On the times I've taken the picc to green park it often takes 10 mins and now and then 15 mins longer than the victoria line on a bad day. N/B i simply don't bother with, I just head straight to the vic platforms to start with. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:12:31 GMT Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\09\20 14:41, Offramp wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 14:07:03 UTC+1, wrote: I doubt all the people who get off the picc at finsbury are specifically going to a victoria line station. I can imagine someone who lives at Cockfosters and works at Hyde Park Corner travelling Cockfosters - Finsbury Park, FP (Vic) - Green Park and walking. Was that "can" supposed to be "can't"? Oggy Circus and Victoria are two of the four busiest tube stations: Waterloo is another, and the easiest route from Cockfosters involves taking the Vic from Finny P to Oggy C. If I'd got a seat on the Picc from Cockfosters, I'd stay seated in reasonable comfort on the train all the way to Hyde Park corner, rather than having to stand on a packed Victoria line train from Finsbury Park to Green Park, and then having a 10 min walk to Hyde Park Corner (maybe in the rain) that more than wasted the few minutes I'd saved standing on the Victoria line train. I suppose it depends if you value comfort over time. Personally I've got better things to do than spend an extra 10-15 mins trundling through the west end on the piccadilly line. In that particular example, the comfortable option is also quicker. But obviously it wouldn't always be the case. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 14:34:39 UTC+1, Basil Jet wrote:
Krapy Rubsnif to Kings Cross: Vic = 310 seconds N/B or 315 seconds S/B Picc = 7.5 minutes N/B or 8 minutes S/B About 2.5 minutes difference KX to Green Park: Vic = 400 seconds N/B or 390 seconds S/B Picc = 10 minutes N/B or 9.5 minutes S/B About 3.5 minutes difference I followed the progress of train 354 on 21st September 2017. Occasionally it was right behind train 306, which might have slowed it a bit. This was just after the rush hour. Finsbury Park 09:54 King's X 10:04 Green Park 10:14. So it took 20 minutes from FP to GP. The timetable says it should be 17.5, so I think that looks reasonably close. It might be very different at 8:30 am, though. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:18:38 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:12:31 GMT Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\09\20 14:41, Offramp wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 14:07:03 UTC+1, wrote: I doubt all the people who get off the picc at finsbury are specifically going to a victoria line station. I can imagine someone who lives at Cockfosters and works at Hyde Park Corner travelling Cockfosters - Finsbury Park, FP (Vic) - Green Park and walking. Was that "can" supposed to be "can't"? Oggy Circus and Victoria are two of the four busiest tube stations: Waterloo is another, and the easiest route from Cockfosters involves taking the Vic from Finny P to Oggy C. If I'd got a seat on the Picc from Cockfosters, I'd stay seated in reasonable comfort on the train all the way to Hyde Park corner, rather than having to stand on a packed Victoria line train from Finsbury Park to Green Park, and then having a 10 min walk to Hyde Park Corner (maybe in the rain) that more than wasted the few minutes I'd saved standing on the Victoria line train. I suppose it depends if you value comfort over time. Personally I've got better things to do than spend an extra 10-15 mins trundling through the west end on the piccadilly line. In that particular example, the comfortable option is also quicker. But obviously it wouldn't always be the case. You could always walk from the vic to the picc at green park though the poorly designed layout at that station makes it far more of a slog than it should be just to change lines. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:18:38 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:12:31 GMT Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\09\20 14:41, Offramp wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 14:07:03 UTC+1, wrote: I doubt all the people who get off the picc at finsbury are specifically going to a victoria line station. I can imagine someone who lives at Cockfosters and works at Hyde Park Corner travelling Cockfosters - Finsbury Park, FP (Vic) - Green Park and walking. Was that "can" supposed to be "can't"? Oggy Circus and Victoria are two of the four busiest tube stations: Waterloo is another, and the easiest route from Cockfosters involves taking the Vic from Finny P to Oggy C. If I'd got a seat on the Picc from Cockfosters, I'd stay seated in reasonable comfort on the train all the way to Hyde Park corner, rather than having to stand on a packed Victoria line train from Finsbury Park to Green Park, and then having a 10 min walk to Hyde Park Corner (maybe in the rain) that more than wasted the few minutes I'd saved standing on the Victoria line train. I suppose it depends if you value comfort over time. Personally I've got better things to do than spend an extra 10-15 mins trundling through the west end on the piccadilly line. In that particular example, the comfortable option is also quicker. But obviously it wouldn't always be the case. You could always walk from the vic to the picc at green park though the poorly designed layout at that station makes it far more of a slog than it should be just to change lines. No, it's a doddle: take the Vic escalator to the surface, come down on the other escalator, and you're straight on to the Picc platforms. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:02:26 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: You could always walk from the vic to the picc at green park though the poorly designed layout at that station makes it far more of a slog than it should be just to change lines. No, it's a doddle: take the Vic escalator to the surface, come down on the other escalator, and you're straight on to the Picc platforms. Going up 1 escalator then down another is hardly a doddle for some people especially if you have kids or stuff to carry. Also if you're the wrong end of the vic platform you have a long walk. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:02:26 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: You could always walk from the vic to the picc at green park though the poorly designed layout at that station makes it far more of a slog than it should be just to change lines. No, it's a doddle: take the Vic escalator to the surface, come down on the other escalator, and you're straight on to the Picc platforms. Going up 1 escalator then down another is hardly a doddle for some people especially if you have kids or stuff to carry. Also if you're the wrong end of the vic platform you have a long walk. If you're using the escalator short-cut, you just need to be somewhere towards the middle of the Victoria line train. In the other direction, you want to be at the western end of the Picc train. It's step-free, too. |
Why is the piccadilly line so slow?
Um... are you a nutcase? The shortest step free route is the best. The underground tunnels are for tourists and nitwits.
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