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On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. |
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-septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...66c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Mark |
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Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ...
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J."
wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. Mark |
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Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 17:01 ...
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J." wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. In what sense is the CamTram a proper railway whereas the Elizabeth Line isn't? They are both networks of several branches with a common underground core. If you asked people which one wasn't a new railway, I think you'd find that most people would choose CamTram on the grounds that it's only a tramway. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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On 13/11/2017 15:28, Recliner wrote:
By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. We will probably have flying cars. On the moon. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 13/11/17 16:19, Roland Perry wrote:
Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? I don't think so; I can't see anything about that on the BBC News or Guardian websites... |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:13:27 +0000, "Richard J."
wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 17:01 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:57:20 +0000, "Richard J." wrote: Mark Goodge wrote on 13 Nov 2017 at 16:45 ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 15:28:49 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Certes wrote: On 13/11/17 10:29, Recliner wrote: I'm surprised our hyperactive Cambridge and Ely correspondents haven't posted this story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/plan-for-underground-line-to-run-under-cambridge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152e2 fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. By the time this scheme gets underway, Crossrail 2 might also be underway or even completed, as might the Bakerloo extension. By "new" they mean a new city, as the article goes on to make clear when you read it in full. London already has several underground railways. Yes, the article is not totally ignorant about other recent underground railways in Britain. But the opening statement (perhaps added by a sub-editor?) "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades..." is just plain wrong. It's perfectly correct if you assume that "railway" means a network, not just a line. The London Underground is "a railway" in the same sense that, say, the LNER was a railway. In what sense is the CamTram a proper railway whereas the Elizabeth Line isn't? The Elizabeth Line is a new part of an existing railway, not a new railway. Mark |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...66c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. Curiously, the flight I'm on is the modern version of the old Ho Chi Minh trail: it's a Vietnam Airlines flight that starts in Hanoi, then flies on to Vientiane and Phnom Penh and finally to Saigon, now rebranded Ho Chi Minh City. Now, of course, it's a comfortable Airbus A321, not a battered truck sheltering on a jungle trail. You get free beers, not free bombs, while you're waiting. |
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In message , at 03:54:34 on Tue, 14 Nov 2017,
Recliner remarked: That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. I telecommute around the world (of which uk.r is only a small outpost), chewing up the environment by flying only when strictly necessary. These days I rarely leave the UK. Haven't worked in a full-time job for 15yrs now, but have been active online for 30yrs, much of that time in environments where online participation was part of the brief. But I readily agree that usenet is more of a displacement activity than anything else these days. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. I'm not sure how much care is required to spot the sarcasm in: "there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London." -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 22:47:14 +0000
Mark Goodge wrote: On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:13:27 +0000, "Richard J." wrote: In what sense is the CamTram a proper railway whereas the Elizabeth Line isn't? The Elizabeth Line is a new part of an existing railway, not a new railway. That depends how you look at it. It could be viewed as a new railway joining up 2 previously (operationally) seperate railways, or you could view it as simply an underground section of the national rail network. I believe TfL has overall control of the underground section even though a conscession will run it, so to me it seems more like an entirely new line. |
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On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...66c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000
" wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:16:05 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. There are a few of the old French colonial buildings left in Vientiane, but they're not particularly valued or protected against replacement by a more practical and profitable modern building. You'd be hard-pressed to spot The place looks a bit of a dump on streetview. Which I suppose is why you've visited - anywhere thats a bit rough and seedy eh? |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:16:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. There are a few of the old French colonial buildings left in Vientiane, but they're not particularly valued or protected against replacement by a more practical and profitable modern building. You'd be hard-pressed to spot The place looks a bit of a dump on streetview. Which I suppose is why you've visited - anywhere thats a bit rough and seedy eh? I could visit your part of north London if that's all I wanted. |
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On 2017\11\14 23:21, Recliner wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. So you're on the run from the Central Americans as well... ;-) |
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On 2017\11\14 23:21, Recliner wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. So you're on the run from the Central Americans as well... ;-) It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/...ss-global-2017 |
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On 2017\11\15 01:21, Recliner wrote:
It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/...ss-global-2017 I'm guessing the one with the blue hair is a feminist protester. |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\11\14 23:21, Recliner wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. So you're on the run from the Central Americans as well... ;-) It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): so what do they eat? |
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On 2017\11\15 01:21, Recliner wrote:
It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. What a great idea. Cut out all that world peace crap and just pick whoever has the best globes. |
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On 2017\11\15 09:11, tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): so what do they eat? Anything they want... it's all coming back up as soon as they get back to their en-suite. |
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:21:43 GMT
Recliner wrote: wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central Do change the record old chap. Plus unlike you I don't live all alone so I have to consider where my wife wants to go and young kids rather preclude any kind of long haul flight. Perhaps if you could drive a car you could also tour europe like we do and see cultural sights instead of ladyboy bars. America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. Central, south, all similar hispanic flee pits where I'm sure you fit right in. |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\11\14 23:21, Recliner wrote: wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: On 14.11.17 3:54, Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message -septe mber.org, at 15:28:49 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Recliner remarked: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...run-under-camb idge-centre-s29mmk858?shareToken=0fdf69714488066c31bc93f5152 e2fd0 That's going to make Edinburgh Council look like a paragon of financial prudence. Especially as it'll be "Britain’s first new underground railway in decades", so there are no workers available with recent experience of tunnelling in, say, London. Huh? Crossrail, HS2 and the Northern line extension all have significant London tunnels. Is this national "fail to spot sarcasm day", or what? For you, vigorously participating in usenet threads is a full-time occupation, as a substitute for the paid work which you'd much rather be doing. For most of the rest of us, uk.r is something we dip into in idle moments, and we don't carefully analyse every post for sarcasm. For example, I'm currently sitting in the lounge in Vientiane airport, sipping an early beer, and will soon be taking off. I won't be checking uk.r until at least tonight. I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You need to learn some geography, even if your fear of flying and xenophobia stop you actually seeing the world. I've not been to Central America for several years, and have yet to visit most of the Central American countries. So you're on the run from the Central Americans as well... ;-) It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): so what do they eat? Dunno, I wasn't looking at their plates. |
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On 15/11/2017 01:51, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2017\11\15 01:21, Recliner wrote: It turns out there's a global beauty contest in my hotel. The contestants were at breakfast this morning (who knew that beauty queens eat?): http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/...ss-global-2017 I'm guessing the one with the blue hair is a feminist protester. It's Recliner in drag :-) -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not heard of before), on three aircraft types (789, A321, ATR72). All flights started boarding more or less on time, and proceeded smoothly. Even being parked next to the 744 and 748 used by the most powerful man in the world in Vientiane didn't affect our on-time departur. To Phnom Penh. fx: tryinng to stay on topic Is the commute to and from Heathrow, road-wise, being deliberately slowed down so the Elizabeth Line can look even better than it should do? Or is traffic really just getting that bad? I've not noticed any recent deterioration. |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:10:48 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not Your carbon bootprint is probably a size 20 by now. In case you didn't know (I suspect you do but don't care), a modern airliner produces the same amount of CO2 *per passenger* as a small car driven the same distance. In the last month you've probably travelled 20,000 miles so you've helped produce the same amount of pollution in that time as my car did in 18 months. Congratulations. |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:10:48 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not Your carbon bootprint is probably a size 20 by now. In case you didn't know (I suspect you do but don't care), a modern airliner produces the same amount of CO2 *per passenger* as a small car driven the same distance. In the last month you've probably travelled 20,000 miles so you've helped produce the same amount of pollution in that time as my car did in 18 months. Congratulations. Ah, Boltar, the eco-warrier! |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:10:48 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not Your carbon bootprint is probably a size 20 by now. In case you didn't know (I suspect you do but don't care), a modern airliner produces the same amount of CO2 *per passenger* as a small car driven the same distance. In the last month you've probably travelled 20,000 miles so you've helped produce the same amount of pollution in that time as my car did in 18 months. Congratulations. except the plane would have flown whether he was on it or not whereas your car would have gone nowhere tim |
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On 2017\11\20 10:45, tim... wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:10:48 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not Your carbon bootprint is probably a size 20 by now. In case you didn't know (I suspect you do but don't care), a modern airliner produces the same amount of CO2 *per passenger* as a small car driven the same distance. In the last month you've probably travelled 20,000 miles so you've helped produce the same amount of pollution in that time as my car did in 18 months. Congratulations. except the plane would have flown whether he was on it or not whereas your car would have gone nowhere Right, because airlines make no attempt to match supply to demand? |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:31:51 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:10:48 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/11/2017 14:54, wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:44:35 +0000 " wrote: I hear that Vientiane has some impressive French colonial architecture, though narcotics abuse there is more obvious. Last month central america, this month is east asia. You ever get the feeling he's on the run? Or is he tryng to do some kind of weird mirror thing with my travel - two weeks ago Borneo, last week Mexico, this week back in London. And I got back into London this morning. My trip involved a total of seven flights, on three Southeast Asian different airlines (two of which I'd not Your carbon bootprint is probably a size 20 by now. In case you didn't know (I suspect you do but don't care), a modern airliner produces the same amount of CO2 *per passenger* as a small car driven the same distance. In the last month you've probably travelled 20,000 miles so you've helped produce the same amount of pollution in that time as my car did in 18 months. Congratulations. Ah, Boltar, the eco-warrier! I'm not lentil munching hippy, but I do my bit. You clearly don't give a toss but then you've probably only got a few decades left anyway and apparently have no offspring so why would you. |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:36:24 +0000
Basil Jet wrote: On 2017\11\20 10:45, tim... wrote: except the plane would have flown whether he was on it or not whereas your car would have gone nowhere Right, because airlines make no attempt to match supply to demand? Quite. The reason cloudless skies in summer over the SE is often a white haze rather than a nice clear blue is because people like recliner think its perfectly ok to fly 7K miles on holiday every few months. He probably thinks the plane works on unicorn **** and moonbeams rather than 100+ tons of kerosene per flight. |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:07:25 +0000
wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC), wrote: I'm not lentil munching hippy, but I do my bit. You clearly don't give a toss but then you've probably only got a few decades left anyway and apparently have no offspring so why would you. Depends on what route you want to argue the planet should be saved for, the majority of living things that form a stable eco system or one where human beings exist in ever increasing numbers and gradually destroy everything by the demands placed on resources. If couples only had a maximum of 2 kids we wouldn't have a spiralling world population, in fact it would come down a bit. Unfortunately religion and stupidity generally lead to many cultures having far more and its not helped when a one child policies as implemented in China are accused of being anti- feminist or anti-woman or anti-child or some such ******** by clueless campaigners. Those who have not bred can claim that some of the resources that they may using for a generous life style are those that would have been used by subsequent generations of descendants and by not creating any they can use a bit more themselves but overall the use of resources will be a lot less than would have been used by an ever expanding line of descendants. Unfortunately the resources their theoretical descendents may or may not have used in the future are largely irrelevant if the climate predictions are to be believed. Its what these people are using now that matters. |
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On 21/11/2017 09:57, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:07:25 +0000 wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC), wrote: I'm not lentil munching hippy, but I do my bit. You clearly don't give a toss but then you've probably only got a few decades left anyway and apparently have no offspring so why would you. Depends on what route you want to argue the planet should be saved for, the majority of living things that form a stable eco system or one where human beings exist in ever increasing numbers and gradually destroy everything by the demands placed on resources. If couples only had a maximum of 2 kids we wouldn't have a spiralling world population, in fact it would come down a bit. Unfortunately religion and stupidity generally lead to many cultures having far more and its not helped when a one child policies as implemented in China are accused of being anti- feminist or anti-woman or anti-child or some such ******** by clueless campaigners. The clueless one here is the troll with the potato fixation. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:17:31 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote: On 21/11/2017 09:57, wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:07:25 +0000 wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC), wrote: I'm not lentil munching hippy, but I do my bit. You clearly don't give a toss but then you've probably only got a few decades left anyway and apparently have no offspring so why would you. Depends on what route you want to argue the planet should be saved for, the majority of living things that form a stable eco system or one where human beings exist in ever increasing numbers and gradually destroy everything by the demands placed on resources. If couples only had a maximum of 2 kids we wouldn't have a spiralling world population, in fact it would come down a bit. Unfortunately religion and stupidity generally lead to many cultures having far more and its not helped when a one child policies as implemented in China are accused of being anti- feminist or anti-woman or anti-child or some such ******** by clueless campaigners. The clueless one here is the troll with the potato fixation. Uh hu wot dat you said Beavis? Uh huh huh huh. |
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