Snow on the line
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Recliner wrote: I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. Also the Central line east of Leytonstone. Ice on the conductor rails was the only thing I thought was likely; but the snow started after the service and I'd've thought the current would have warmed the rail enough to melt it - it wasn't _that_ cold, after all. What do you speculate was the root cause? I'm struggling to come up with much that seems plausible to me. -- Mike Bristow |
Snow on the line
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:37:08 +0000
Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: The correct announcement should have been "We ignored the weather forecast because we're ****wits and now our trains are snowed in" That would contravine the railway bylaws (section 6). I therefore Yeah, I'm sure they pay attention to every fine detail of railway law when it comes to snow clearing. doubt that any reasonable person could consider it the correct announcement. Want to try again? No. Because its EXACTLY what happened last time in 2013. |
Snow on the line
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... |
Snow on the line
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... Which "different lines on parts of the network seperated (sic) by 20 miles"? |
Snow on the line
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wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:37:08 +0000 Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: The correct announcement should have been "We ignored the weather forecast because we're ****wits and now our trains are snowed in" That would contravine the railway bylaws (section 6). I therefore Yeah, I'm sure they pay attention to every fine detail of railway law when it comes to snow clearing. You misunderstand. Your proposed announcment breaches the bylaws; therefore no reasonable person can consider it the correct annoucment - even if your understanding of the root cause is correct. -- Mike Bristow |
Snow on the line
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Recliner wrote: wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... Which "different lines on parts of the network seperated (sic) by 20 miles"? Epping and Amersham were both affected, and are about 30 miles apart as the crow flies, and 44 miles apart by track kilometerage. -- Mike Bristow |
Snow on the line
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:45:10 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... Which "different lines on parts of the network seperated (sic) by 20 miles"? Umm, amersham and cockfosters? Actually make that 25 miles. |
Snow on the line
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:26:33 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:45:10 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... Which "different lines on parts of the network seperated (sic) by 20 miles"? Umm, amersham and cockfosters? Actually make that 25 miles. I didn't say anything about Cockfosters. I mentioned the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. I realise you're very parochial, but perhaps even you know that Picc and Met share that branch. |
Snow on the line
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:26:02 +0000, Mike Bristow
wrote: In article , Recliner wrote: wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:24:05 -0000 (UTC) Recliner wrote: Mike Bristow wrote: In article , wrote: I'd lay a lot of money on the ****wits not listening to the weather forecast and not spraying deicer on the power rails or sending up a train with any kind of brush on it. Then next morning, "Oooo, theres snow on the rails, train won't move! Quick, lets blame the power supply and make it sound like its someone elses fault!" So how would you describe a problem where the snow/ice prevents the power from getting from the rail to train? I don't think that was the problem. I think it was genuinely a power supply problem, as it also affected the Piccadilly line Uxbridge branch. Later, when the Met line was running again, the Amersham branch continued to be affected, and that might have been more to do with snow/ice on the running and conductor rails. A power supply problem which affected different lines on parts of the network seperated by 20 miles. Hmm, lets think about the likelyhood of that for a second vs the didn't-bother-to-clear-snow-from-the-rails scenario... Which "different lines on parts of the network seperated (sic) by 20 miles"? Epping and Amersham were both affected, and are about 30 miles apart as the crow flies, and 44 miles apart by track kilometerage. I mentioned Uxbridge, not Epping. |
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