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Roland Perry March 20th 18 01:37 PM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
In message , at 14:20:47 on Tue, 20 Mar
2018, remarked:

As this is UTL, I have to confess the last time was probably around
2010, and parking at Luton Airport *station* (as a backdoor) but only


Don't most stations have a parking duration limit which could easily be
exceeded by a holiday?


I don't think that's necessarily the case, but times I parked at Luton
Airport Parkway station were on average for three day business trips.

And not *always* as a complete back door. At least once it was because
my outbound trip was from the Midlands via Gatwick (park at Luton then
use Thameslink), return to Luton, drive back to the Midlands.
--
Roland Perry

CJB March 20th 18 08:36 PM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On Sunday, 18 March 2018 09:11:20 UTC, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:16:12 on Sun, 18 Mar
2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

TfL are also arranging with HAL as to how the existing Heathrow
staff travel concessions will be maintained. At present they are a
"goodwill" measure from GWR.

Whilst I appreciate many staff are low paid (although many aren't), I
don't quite understand why HAL gets or expects a goodwill measure from
GWR when they then insist on charging or minimum fares (which is what
this is) for access to their infrastructure...


The answer to that is fairly simple. Heathrow Connect exists almost
entirely as a way for staff to get to and from the airport. The
occasional tourist using it as a HEx-lite is almost a loophole.

The arrangement between Heathrow and GWR for the use of HEx
infrastructure will no doubt reflect the fact that GWR is in effect
waiving the airport premium for airport workers.

Everyone wins, because GWR get the bums on seats because the fares are
competitive with other means of workers getting to the airport, and the
airport gets to bask in the modal shift (which includes meeting targets
for pollution/congestion, and the cost of providing parking) for those
workers whose alternative to Heathrow Connect would be driving.
--
Roland Perry


And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of Heathrow. Not that many bother.

Someone Somewhere March 21st 18 06:07 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On 20/03/2018 21:36, CJB wrote:

And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of Heathrow. Not that many bother.

You mean outside of cars, taxis, and presumably riding the things in there?

Roland Perry March 21st 18 07:19 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
In message , at 07:07:23 on Wed, 21 Mar
2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of
Heathrow. Not that many bother.

You mean outside of cars, taxis, and presumably riding the things in
there?


I think you'll find cycling is banned in the tunnels to the central
terminals.
--
Roland Perry

John Williamson March 21st 18 09:14 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On 21/03/2018 08:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:07:23 on Wed, 21 Mar
2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

*And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of
Heathrow. Not that many bother.

You mean outside of cars, taxis, and presumably riding the things in
there?


I think you'll find cycling is banned in the tunnels to the central
terminals.


Only for the duration of the renovation works. Once finished, they will
reinstate the pedestrian and cycle access via the small side tunnels.

Pedestrian access is currently via a free shuttle bus which shuttles
between the East Ramp access road and the central bus station.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Roland Perry March 21st 18 09:28 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
In message , at 10:14:49 on Wed, 21
Mar 2018, John Williamson remarked:
On 21/03/2018 08:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:07:23 on Wed, 21 Mar
2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

*And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of
Heathrow. Not that many bother.

You mean outside of cars, taxis, and presumably riding the things in
there?

I think you'll find cycling is banned in the tunnels to the central
terminals.


Only for the duration of the renovation works. Once finished, they will
reinstate the pedestrian and cycle access via the small side tunnels.


I thought the side tunnels were earmarked for pods, or has that
experiment been kicked into the long grass?

Pedestrian access is currently via a free shuttle bus which shuttles
between the East Ramp access road and the central bus station.


--
Roland Perry

John Williamson March 21st 18 09:48 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On 21/03/2018 10:28, Roland Perry wrote:
I thought the side tunnels were earmarked for pods, or has that
experiment been kicked into the long grass?


Possibly, I only see the signage that says "We're brightening up our
welcome" as I drive past in the coach. I've not bothered checking their
plans, as they won't affect me much, but I can't see a reason to run
pods there, and they would only need one tunnel for them, anyway, as the
width of the existing pods to T5 would permit two way working in a
single tunnel.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Roland Perry March 21st 18 10:15 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
In message , at 10:48:02 on Wed, 21
Mar 2018, John Williamson remarked:
On 21/03/2018 10:28, Roland Perry wrote:
I thought the side tunnels were earmarked for pods, or has that
experiment been kicked into the long grass?


Possibly, I only see the signage that says "We're brightening up our
welcome" as I drive past in the coach. I've not bothered checking their
plans, as they won't affect me much, but I can't see a reason to run
pods there,


Like T5, to connect the parking on the perimeter road to the terminals.

It does seem to have been put on hold though.

and they would only need one tunnel for them, anyway, as the width of
the existing pods to T5 would permit two way working in a single tunnel.


--
Roland Perry

Clive Page[_3_] March 22nd 18 08:38 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On 21/03/2018 08:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 07:07:23 on Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

Â*And the Connect is the only way to get cycles into / out of Heathrow. Not that many bother.

You mean outside of cars, taxis, and presumably riding the things in there?


I think you'll find cycling is banned in the tunnels to the central terminals.


I thought that you were allowed to cycle through the small side tunnels otherwise reserved for taxis? Or maybe that has changed?

--
Clive Page

Neil Williams[_4_] March 22nd 18 08:57 AM

Crossrail fares announced - and a massive extension!
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:48:02 +0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Possibly, I only see the signage that says "We're brightening up our
welcome" as I drive past in the coach. I've not bothered checking their
plans, as they won't affect me much, but I can't see a reason to run
pods there, and they would only need one tunnel for them, anyway, as the
width of the existing pods to T5 would permit two way working in a
single tunnel.


If they're self driving pods like those being trialled in MK they run
on the pavement with pedestrians at low speed.

Neil


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