Station names
 

I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.
For example, if I had to rename the stations on the
Bakerloo line, I'd have this instead (with a little
help from my A-Z):

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North
Lambeth North ---------- OK
Waterloo --------------- OK
Embankment ------------- OK (on the grounds that
I can't think of anything else)
Charing Cross ---------- Trafalgar Square
Piccadilly ------------- OK (tempted to call this Soho
South, but you don't mess with the sacred)
Oxford Circus ---------- OK (tempted to call this Soho
West, but see above)
Regent's Park ---------- Marylebone East
Baker Street ----------- OK
Marylebone ------------- OK
Edgware Road ----------- Paddington East
Paddington ------------- OK
Warwick Avenue --------- Paddington North
Maida Vale ------------- OK
Kilburn Park ----------- Kilburn Central
Queen's Park ----------- West Kilburn
Kensal Green ----------- OK
Willesden Junction ----- Harlesden South
Harlesden -------------- Harlesden West
Stonebridge Park ------- OK (no idea what else to call it)
Wembley Central -------- OK
North Wembley ---------- OK
South Kenton ----------- OK
Kenton ----------------- OK
Harrow and Wealdstone -- Wealdstone

As it happens, it seems as if the tube names are more
readily recognised than the area, which is why if you
tell someone you live in Walworth, they have no idea
where you are talking about until you say you live
in the Elephant and Castle.

EZ

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E. Zackatackali wrote:
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.
For example, if I had to rename the stations on the
Bakerloo line, I'd have this instead (with a little
help from my A-Z):

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North
Lambeth North ---------- OK
snip

As it happens, it seems as if the tube names are more
readily recognised than the area, which is why if you
tell someone you live in Walworth, they have no idea
where you are talking about until you say you live
in the Elephant and Castle.

So why do you want to confuse everyone by changing the names?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
...

Kilburn Park ----------- Kilburn Central

Except that Kilburn Park station is not in the centre of Kilburn, but
Kilburn High Road station is.

Stonebridge Park ------- OK (no idea what else to call it)

Tokyngton. Stonebridge Park is an insignificant road, closer to Harlesden
Station.

North Wembley ---------- OK
South Kenton ----------- OK

Except that South Kenton station is actually in North Wembley. Perhaps it
could be called Preston West... or Preston Western has more of a ring to it.

Harrow and Wealdstone -- Wealdstone

I agree totally on this one. I think the name may have something to do with
the old boundary between Harrow and Wealdstone boroughs, but I only have a
borough map of the area going back to the 1950s, and Wealdstone borough had
already been absorbed by then.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
...
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.
For example, if I had to rename the stations on the
Bakerloo line, I'd have this instead (with a little
help from my A-Z):

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North

[snip]


As it happens, it seems as if the tube names are more
readily recognised than the area, which is why if you
tell someone you live in Walworth, they have no idea
where you are talking about until you say you live
in the Elephant and Castle.

EZ


Surely that's exactly why the name should stay as it is?

Apart from anything else, Elephant and Castle is just so much more fun as a
name. And it is geographically accurate - that's the name of the junction.
As good as Oxford Circus.

Jonn

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On 24-Apr-2004, John Rowland wrote in
:

Kilburn Park ----------- Kilburn Central

Except that Kilburn Park station is not in the centre of Kilburn, but
Kilburn High Road station is.

Stonebridge Park ------- OK (no idea what else to call it)

Tokyngton. Stonebridge Park is an insignificant road, closer to Harlesden
Station.

How about calling all the stations north of Maida Vale: "**** hole", apart
from Stonebridge Park, of course, which would be "**** hole Central".

Mind you, Stonebridge Park boasts the famous "Ace Cafe" where,
bizarrely, criminals, Hells Angels and police constables eat breakfast
together most mornings in perfect harmony.

Bless em.

As for Harrow and Wealdstone, that should be called "Scotland".


kedron


North Wembley ---------- OK
South Kenton ----------- OK

Except that South Kenton station is actually in North Wembley. Perhaps it
could be called Preston West... or Preston Western has more of a ring to it.

Harrow and Wealdstone -- Wealdstone

I agree totally on this one. I think the name may have something to do with
the old boundary between Harrow and Wealdstone boroughs, but I only have a
borough map of the area going back to the 1950s, and Wealdstone borough had
already been absorbed by then.

Station names
 

"E. Zackatackali" wrote

Harrow and Wealdstone -- Wealdstone

As it happens, it seems as if the tube names are more
readily recognised than the area, which is why if you
tell someone you live in Walworth, they have no idea
where you are talking about until you say you live
in the Elephant and Castle.

So what would you rename Wealdstone British Rail?

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"Andrew Brian Hickman" wrote in message
...
"E. Zackatackali" wrote

So what would you rename Wealdstone British Rail?

Bogbrush.

Ian

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Andrew Brian Hickman wrote:

So what would you rename Wealdstone British Rail?

(Pssst, don't tell anyone I told you, but it's the same station!!)

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"Andrew Brian Hickman" asked...

So what would you rename Wealdstone British Rail?



Fred. Or maybe Doris. It all depends what mood I'm in.

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"Richard J." a écrit dans le message de news:
...
E. Zackatackali wrote:
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.

So why do you want to confuse everyone by changing the names?

To flummox al-Qaeda, any fule no that.

Station names
 

Apart from anything else, Elephant and Castle is just so much more fun as a
name. And it is geographically accurate - that's the name of the junction.
As good as Oxford Circus.

There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. TCR station is all the way at one end, so it's not even
the station you'd use if you had no idea where a house number was on
TCR - you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St. I suggest that it
becomes:

St Giles' Circus.

Or if that's a little obscure, leave people in no doubt with:

Soho Square.

(I mean there is precedent - Leicester Sq station exits onto the
Charing X Rd.)

Station names
 

"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
...
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.
For example, if I had to rename the stations on the
Bakerloo line, I'd have this instead (with a little
help from my A-Z):

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North


How about

Penge West ---------- Windsor and Eaton Riverside

Anerley --------- Penge North

Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

Beckenham Hill ---------- Bellingham sur la Mearde

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames

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"kedron" wrote in message
...

On 24-Apr-2004, John Rowland wrote in
:

Kilburn Park ----------- Kilburn Central

Except that Kilburn Park station is not in the centre of Kilburn, but
Kilburn High Road station is.

Stonebridge Park ------- OK (no idea what else to call it)

Tokyngton. Stonebridge Park is an insignificant road, closer to
Harlesden
Station.

How about calling all the stations north of Maida Vale: "**** hole", apart
from Stonebridge Park, of course, which would be "**** hole Central".

Mind you, Stonebridge Park boasts the famous "Ace Cafe" where,
bizarrely, criminals, Hells Angels and police constables eat breakfast
together most mornings in perfect harmony.

Bless em.

As for Harrow and Wealdstone, that should be called "Scotland".



Aye

But what of Cockfosters ?

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On 25-Apr-2004, Yanart Amin Ari wrote in gUDic.178$ME2.54@newsfe1-win:

enge West ---------- Windsor and Eaton Riverside

Anerley --------- Penge North

Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

Beckenham Hill ---------- Bellingham sur la Mearde

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Yep -- putting Paddington Green cop shop on Edgware Roadistan
was a very happy coincidence.

Anyone ever had a pint in the Green Man and lived?


kedron

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On 25-Apr-2004, Yanart Amin Ari wrote in %VDic.179$ME2.34@newsfe1-win:

ogether most mornings in perfect harmony.

Bless em.

As for Harrow and Wealdstone, that should be called "Scotland".



Aye

But what of Cockfosters ?


Yeah well, they're all up there -- innit?


kedron

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"James" writes:
There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. ... if you had no idea where a house number was on TCR
- you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St.

In fact, when Goodge Street station opened in 1907 as part of the CCE&HR
(now part of the Northern Line), it was *called* Tottenham Court Road.

The trouble is that the present Tottenham Court Road station had
already opened in 1900 with the CLR (now Central Line) -- under the
same name. Back then, since it was at the place where the line
*crossed* the named street, that name made sense and was unambiguous.
When the CCE&HR opened, they built an adjacent station (later combined
with the CLR station to form the present layout) and similarly named
it after the street crossing the line there, Oxford Street.

But this situation was just too confusing -- having two TCR stations
might have been all right, but having one of them adjacent to a
differently named station on the same line as the other was too much.
So the following year the CCE&HR conceded to the senior line's precedent
and switched their two stations to the present naming.

In other words, James should put the blame the for this one on all
those people who declined to invest in HStP&CCR shares (as the CCE&HR
was originally known) back in 1894. If they had, construction on the
line (later called the CCE&HR) might have begun immediately and the
CLR might not have completed its TCR station first.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Those who cannot Google the past are destined
to repost it." -- Huey Callison

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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"Yanart Amin Ari" wrote in message
news:gUDic.178$ME2.54@newsfe1-win...

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames

Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet, I
think.

--
Brian
"You don't stop laughing because you grow old. You grow old because you stop
laughing."

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"John of Aix" wrote in message
...

"Richard J." a écrit dans le message de news:
...
E. Zackatackali wrote:
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.

So why do you want to confuse everyone by changing the names?

To flummox al-Qaeda, any fule no that.

Great idea, return to WW2 measures: remove all the signs, starting with The
Tube.
--
Brian
"Happy St George's Day. It either is, just was, or soon will be."

Station names
 

Brian Watson wrote:

"Yanart Amin Ari" wrote in message
news:gUDic.178$ME2.54@newsfe1-win...

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames

I wasn't aware of that one.

Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians

Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?

and Huguenots yet, I think.

WTF are Huguenots?

Station names
 

"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I
quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians

Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?

South Kensington would seem to be a suitable candidate for such renaming.

and Huguenots yet, I think.

WTF are Huguenots?

A persecuted minority in France during most of the period from the early
1500s until 1789, the French Protestants were given the name Huguenots in
the time of the Reformation.

Although they were forbidden to leave France, hundreds of thousands fled.
They carried French arts, manufactures, and culture to England, Germany, the
Netherlands, and the British colonies of North America.

HTH.

--
Brian
"Happy St George's Day. It either is, just was, or soon will be."

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"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:

and Huguenots yet, I think.

WTF are Huguenots?

(sigh, so much for the Information Revolution)

French Protestants driven out in the late 17th century.
http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-her...protestant.htm

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"James" wrote in message
om...
Apart from anything else, Elephant and Castle is just so much more fun
as a
name. And it is geographically accurate - that's the name of the
junction.
As good as Oxford Circus.

There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. TCR station is all the way at one end, so it's not even
the station you'd use if you had no idea where a house number was on
TCR - you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St. I suggest that it
becomes:

St Giles' Circus.

Or if that's a little obscure, leave people in no doubt with:

Soho Square.

(I mean there is precedent - Leicester Sq station exits onto the
Charing X Rd.)

A better name would be Centre Point perhaps?

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"Brian Watson" wrote the following in:


I believe the north London station has already (on at least one
sign) been renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a
bit of spray paint?

Hackney Wick has been renamed "Hackneys Wicked". No apostrophe in
"Hackneys" though. Honestly, what do they teach kids these days.

--
message by Robin May, enforcer of sod's law.
"Dust Hill guy likes the Gordon clock"

"You MUST NOT drive dangerously" - the Highway Code
Spelling lesson: then and than are different words.

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"Reg Nullify" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
om...

There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. TCR station is all the way at one end, so it's not even
the station you'd use if you had no idea where a house number was on
TCR - you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St.

A better name would be Centre Point perhaps?

Genius!

--
Brian
"When all about you is crumbling, when the arse is falling out of your
world, you need to focus on something positive in your life. Something you
can control, improve even."

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Brian Watson wrote:
"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
...

Brian Watson wrote:


I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I

quite

like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians

Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?


South Kensington would seem to be a suitable candidate for such renaming.

Surely Earl's Court...? South Kensington should be Kensington-du-Sud.
Gloucester Road should be Glow-sester Road (with an American accent).

and Huguenots yet, I think.


WTF are Huguenots?


A persecuted minority in France during most of the period from the early
1500s until 1789, the French Protestants were given the name Huguenots in
the time of the Reformation.

Although they were forbidden to leave France, hundreds of thousands fled.
They carried French arts, manufactures, and culture to England, Germany, the
Netherlands, and the British colonies of North America.

HTH.

--
Brian
"Happy St George's Day. It either is, just was, or soon will be."




--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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Brian Watson wrote:
Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Only problem is that the ethnic groupings around London change over
time. We'd end up changing the names every 30 or so years.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet, I
think.

Australians have Shepherds Bush!

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"kedron" wrote in message
...

On 25-Apr-2004, Yanart Amin Ari wrote in gUDic.178$ME2.54@newsfe1-win:

enge West ---------- Windsor and Eaton Riverside

Anerley --------- Penge North

Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

Beckenham Hill ---------- Bellingham sur la Mearde

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Yep -- putting Paddington Green cop shop on Edgware Roadistan
was a very happy coincidence.

Anyone ever had a pint in the Green Man and lived?


kedron

Naaahr but I had a few brawls and got shot at in the Dudley arms

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"Stuart" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:
Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign)
been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray
paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I
quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Only problem is that the ethnic groupings around London change over
time. We'd end up changing the names every 30 or so years.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet,
I
think.

Australians have Shepherds Bush!



Yep, they changed that one to Ozzie Bush

Izerntit

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:28:50 +0100, Stuart
wrote:

Brian Watson wrote:
Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Only problem is that the ethnic groupings around London change over
time. We'd end up changing the names every 30 or so years.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet, I
think.

Australians have Shepherds Bush!

That's be Jackeroo's Outback, then?

--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:59:09 +0100, "Brian Watson"
wrote:


"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
.. .
Brian Watson wrote:

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I
quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians

Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?

South Kensington would seem to be a suitable candidate for such renaming.

New South Kensington?
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 at 07:16:40, Brian Watson
wrote:


Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet, I
think.

Earl's Court: North Sydney
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

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"Brian Watson" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"John of Aix" wrote in message
...

"Richard J." a écrit dans le message de news:
...
E. Zackatackali wrote:
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.

So why do you want to confuse everyone by changing the names?

To flummox al-Qaeda, any fule no that.

Great idea, return to WW2 measures: remove all the signs, starting with
The
Tube.

"Excuse me constable, could you tell me the way to Bond Street?"
"I could madam but I'm not allowed to, walls have ears you know."

"Happy St George's Day. It either is, just was, or soon will be."

Yes I have this problem too. I get it mixed up with Hitler's birthday. Or is
it the Queen's?

Station names
 

"James" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Apart from anything else, Elephant and Castle is just so much more fun
as a
name. And it is geographically accurate - that's the name of the
junction.
As good as Oxford Circus.

There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

I suggest that it
becomes:

St Giles' Circus.

I'd vote for that.

Station names
 

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:16:40 +0100, Brian Watson wrote:

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

I always thought the bilingual signs at Southall (English and some kind of
Arabic-looking script) were a nice touch, personally.

Neil
--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
Mail me on neil at the above domain; mail to the above address is NOT read

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On 23/04/2004 23:43, in article ,
"E. Zackatackali" wrote:

Regent's Park ---------- Marylebone East

Edgware Road ----------- Paddington East

Warwick Avenue --------- Paddington North

Pity the poor benighted souls who get off at these stations imagining
they'll be conveniently situated for a National Rail train.

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In article ,
(John of Aix) wrote:

"Happy St George's Day. It either is, just was, or soon will be."

23rd April.

Yes I have this problem too. I get it mixed up with Hitler's birthday.

20th April (also my parents' wedding anniversary - in 1940).

Or is it the Queen's?

21st April.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
.uk...

the bilingual signs at Southall (English and some kind of
Arabic-looking script) were a nice touch

I don't think it's Arabic: I think it's Urdu.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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John Rowland wrote:

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
.uk...

the bilingual signs at Southall (English and some kind of
Arabic-looking script) were a nice touch


I don't think it's Arabic: I think it's Urdu.

It looks nothing like Arabic or Urdu; it's (like the street signs in
Brick Lane) Bengali.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:43:48 +0100 E. Zackatackali
said...

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North

So presumably the National Rail station close by and so happens to be
called Elephant & Castle would need to be renamed too?

AFAIK Elephant & Castle is/was the name of a pub in the area and it so
happens that other tube stations suit - Angel (Islington), Swiss Cottage
are two other examples.

Piccadilly ------------- OK (tempted to call this Soho
South, but you don't mess with the sacred)

Piccadilly Circus, not Piccadilly. And please don't for one minute
suggest renaming the tube station bang in the middle of one of London's
major landmarks....

--
Phil Richards
London, N4

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In message gUDic.178$ME2.54@newsfe1-win, Yanart Amin Ari
writes
Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

I think you mean "Bir Hakiem"?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk