On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:33:58 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 20/12/2018 09:37, wrote:
All the stupid get-away sheep were on the news bleating about how they'd had
to wait overnight etc blah blah. About time these ****ers suffered some of
the distruption they cause other people in the area who arn't so dumb as to
go
away at xmas time but have to suffer all the extra noise and pollution. And
no
doubt in a few days we'll have the usual live report from the M1 or M6 as
another flock of sheep all head off out on the motorways at the same time
then
act surprised when there are massive traffic jams.

To be fair, it's hard to say that people have been surprised by the
presence of Gatwick - it's been around longer than most people have been
alive and modern planes are far quieter than older models.

Slightly quieter but a lot lot more of them. Gatwick is the busiest single
runway airport in europe, possibly the world.

What is unreasonable is people who think it's reasonable to commute 50+
miles every day and not suffer any disruption - if everyone did that
there would be total gridlock continuously.

The trains being what they are these days, some people might be forced into
it if their boss has given them an ultimatum - turn up on time or look for a
new job.

On 20/12/2018 11:34, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:33:58 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 20/12/2018 09:37, wrote:
All the stupid get-away sheep were on the news bleating about how they'd had
to wait overnight etc blah blah. About time these ****ers suffered some of
the distruption they cause other people in the area who arn't so dumb as to
go
away at xmas time but have to suffer all the extra noise and pollution. And
no
doubt in a few days we'll have the usual live report from the M1 or M6 as
another flock of sheep all head off out on the motorways at the same time
then
act surprised when there are massive traffic jams.

To be fair, it's hard to say that people have been surprised by the
presence of Gatwick - it's been around longer than most people have been
alive and modern planes are far quieter than older models.

Slightly quieter but a lot lot more of them. Gatwick is the busiest single
runway airport in europe, possibly the world.

So? I'm not realistically sure what difference it makes if it's one
noisy plane every 15 minutes, or 5 quieter planes every 3 minutes - it's
still nigh on continuous noise.


What is unreasonable is people who think it's reasonable to commute 50+
miles every day and not suffer any disruption - if everyone did that
there would be total gridlock continuously.

The trains being what they are these days, some people might be forced into
it if their boss has given them an ultimatum - turn up on time or look for a
new job.

I didn't specify the transport form - it's impossible to size a railway
for everyone commuting 50 miles each way on that either.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 11:54:23 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 20/12/2018 11:34, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:33:58 +0000
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 20/12/2018 09:37, wrote:
All the stupid get-away sheep were on the news bleating about how they'd
had
to wait overnight etc blah blah. About time these ****ers suffered some of
the distruption they cause other people in the area who arn't so dumb as to

go
away at xmas time but have to suffer all the extra noise and pollution. And

no
doubt in a few days we'll have the usual live report from the M1 or M6 as
another flock of sheep all head off out on the motorways at the same time
then
act surprised when there are massive traffic jams.

To be fair, it's hard to say that people have been surprised by the
presence of Gatwick - it's been around longer than most people have been
alive and modern planes are far quieter than older models.

Slightly quieter but a lot lot more of them. Gatwick is the busiest single
runway airport in europe, possibly the world.

So? I'm not realistically sure what difference it makes if it's one
noisy plane every 15 minutes, or 5 quieter planes every 3 minutes - it's
still nigh on continuous noise.

1 plane every now and then is hardly continous noise. And its not just noise -
anyone who's been near an airport has smelt the kerosene fumes that drift
along with the wind and can make some people feel sick.

The trains being what they are these days, some people might be forced into
it if their boss has given them an ultimatum - turn up on time or look for a
new job.

I didn't specify the transport form - it's impossible to size a railway
for everyone commuting 50 miles each way on that either.

If we still had jobs for life it would be reasonable to expect people to move
near to where they work. Unfortunately we don't.

In message , at 11:54:23 on Thu, 20 Dec
2018, Someone Somewhere remarked:

What is unreasonable is people who think it's reasonable to commute
50+ miles every day and not suffer any disruption - if everyone did
there would be total gridlock continuously.

The trains being what they are these days, some people might be
forced into it if their boss has given them an ultimatum - turn up on
time or look for a new job.

I didn't specify the transport form - it's impossible to size a railway
for everyone commuting 50 miles each way on that either.

What commuters need is reliability, and that's the same whatever time
they are aiming to get to work (which could be anywhere from 7am to 10am
depending on their job description).

Workers across that range of times can still find themselves disciplined
for being five minutes late, even if every other day they are 25 minutes
early.
--
Roland Perry