tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:02:50 on Sun, 30 Jun 2019,
tim... remarked:

Even when I do select neutral I rarely put the hand brake on if the road
is flat. what's the point?

So you don't get pushed into whatever's in front, when someone rear-ends

and how often does that happen

once in a million

It's still good practice. I put my car in Park at traffic lights. No need
to use either foot or hand brake.

"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:02:50 on Sun, 30 Jun
2019,
tim... remarked:

Even when I do select neutral I rarely put the hand brake on if the
road
is flat. what's the point?

So you don't get pushed into whatever's in front, when someone rear-ends

and how often does that happen

once in a million

It's still good practice. I put my car in Park at traffic lights.

An automatic?

Aren't there different considerations there?

No need
to use either foot or hand brake.

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:02:50 on Sun, 30 Jun
2019,
tim... remarked:

Even when I do select neutral I rarely put the hand brake on if the
road
is flat. what's the point?

So you don't get pushed into whatever's in front, when someone rear-ends

and how often does that happen

once in a million

It's still good practice. I put my car in Park at traffic lights.

An automatic?

Aren't there different considerations there?

Why? It effectively puts the car in neutral and applies the brake, just
what I want.


No need
to use either foot or hand brake.

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe. You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:02:50 on Sun, 30 Jun
2019,
tim... remarked:

Even when I do select neutral I rarely put the hand brake on if the
road
is flat. what's the point?

So you don't get pushed into whatever's in front, when someone
rear-ends

and how often does that happen

once in a million

It's still good practice. I put my car in Park at traffic lights.

An automatic?

Aren't there different considerations there?

Why? It effectively puts the car in neutral and applies the brake, just
what I want.

there you go then

it applies the brake

the same thing doesn't happen in a manual, so any discussions about whether
it is actually *necessary* to apply the brake with a manual can't be
compared with what an auto does

No need
to use either foot or hand brake.

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe.

for a tiny possibility

You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

so you say

tim

In message , at 13:21:13 on Mon, 1 Jul 2019,
tim... remarked:

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe.

for a tiny possibility

You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

so you say

I hope it would be a driving test failure not to have any brake on.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 13:21:13 on Mon, 1 Jul 2019,
tim... remarked:

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe.

for a tiny possibility

You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

so you say

I hope it would be a driving test failure not to have any brake on.

and who drives as per the test 40 years later?

tim

In message , at 15:06:20 on Mon, 1 Jul 2019,
tim... remarked:

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe.

for a tiny possibility

You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

so you say

I hope it would be a driving test failure not to have any brake on.

and who drives as per the test 40 years later?

In an important safety matter such as this?
--
Roland Perry

On 01/07/2019 13:21, tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 17:02:50 on Sun, 30 Jun
2019,
tim... remarked:

Even when I do select neutral I rarely put the hand brake on if the
road
is flat.Â* what's the point?

So you don't get pushed into whatever's in front, when someone
rear-ends

and how often does that happen

once in a million

It's still good practice. I put my car in Park at traffic lights.

An automatic?

Aren't there different considerations there?

Why?Â* It effectively puts the car in neutral and applies the brake, just
what I want.

there you go then

it applies the brake

the same thing doesn't happen in a manual, so any discussions about
whether it is actually *necessary* to apply the brake with a manual
can't be compared with what an auto does

No need
to use either foot or hand brake.

as I said, on level ground, Neutral works just as well

And as Roland correctly said, it's less safe.

for a tiny possibility

You should always have a
brake on when stationary.

so you say


So does every driving instructor. Easy test fail.


--
Graeme Wall
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