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October 22nd 19, 04:30 PM
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Orion 769 Flex cargo services into Liverpool St
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 22/10/2019 15:43, tim... wrote: "Anna Noyd-Dryver" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 22/10/2019 11:35, tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... From: https://www.ft.com/content/c2b51fd2-f19f-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195?segmentId=080b04f5-af92-ae6f-0513-095d44fb3577 One of the Britain’s busiest railway stations is set to take on a new role as a freight hub as part of a plan to shuttle goods to central London from a container port using old passenger trains. Have I understood this right? someone is going to take a container of stuff from the port transfer the contents of it onto a converted passenger carriage individual "units" at a time, presumably through side door(s) and then at the other end empty the passenger carriage by individual units onto little trucks Actually into vans What size of individual unit is this going to work for? Pallets the problem with pallets is they presumably need to be fork lifted and you aren't going to be able to load up a train carriage through a couple of side doors (even if you widen them) using fork lifts, you'd need flat wagons for that You’ve never seen pallets being wheeled around supermarkets etc on one of these? https://www.northerntool.com/images/product/2000x2000/558/55833_2000x2000.jpg yeah, In an earlier life I occasionally got to "drive" one but I think their load is far more limited compared with a fork lift And. of course, they will only deliver the bottom pallet of a stack and wheeled cages, wheeled cages would work, but that means that the goods have to be correctly loaded into wheeled cages at the origin and the cages transported 6000 miles on the ship. That seems a little bit too much organisation to me think updated BRUTES. I have no idea what BRUTES is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Universal_Trolley_Equipment Somehow it reminds me of one of the late Michael Bell's schemes The only three trains a day is also a bit of a damp squib how many container movements is that going to replace, 100 or 2? Going from the OP, I’d guess 12 per day, or 24 if they’re running both units together. And if it’s successful, scope for more. and how many containers arrive at the port every day - Google tells me that the largest ships can carry 19 thousand, so 100,000 per day?? OK they aren't all going to London, but what the heck! Plenty get transported around the country by train; Yes I know, I was being awkward :-) Awkward, you? Surely not :-) I learnt it from Roland :-) |
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