On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:08:27 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Frankly I'm surprised retailers haven't just
given the goverment the finger and just ignore it since if I owned a business
that was on the verge of going bust if I didn't then whats to lose.

All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business

If you're a one person trader , eg a small barber , then essentially your
money is the companies.

are subject to an unlimited fine.

I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a small
amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you
homeless by law.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:59:14 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 03/06/2020 09:17, wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 19:38:16 +0100
wrote:
On 02/06/2020 17:00, wrote:
Life is full of compromises and if the government persist with this 2m
nonsense even against the advice of the WHO then they are going to utterly
kill
the economy of this country. Not just in retail, leisure and travel but in
factories that can't operate efficiently - if at all - with 2m distancing
of
their employees.

I'm sure Bozo the Clown knows this but he's too in thrall to a bunch of
"experts" whose expertise seems to be based on little more than
suck-it-and-see
statistics.

OK. So we reduce the 2m distancing to 1m. This will increase the R
number a little. What are you going to restrict instead to compensate
and bring the R number back to what it would otherwise be?


I couldn't give a toss about the R number or any of this bloody nonsense
any more. The medics the government are listening to at exclusion of
EVERYONE else can only see one side of a very large equation.


And you know better of course.

Its not just me saying it. Plenty of heavyweights on both sides of parliament
have expressed similar views and a number of scientists have expressed doubt
whether its worth the pain.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 18:00:44 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 03/06/2020 09:24, wrote:
Why does everyone assume NOrway and Denmark are equivalent to Sweden? Just
because they all speak dialects of the same language?


Sweden's Tegnell admits too many died:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52903717

"later he underlined that "we basically still think that is the right strategy
for Sweden"."

Seems like most of their problems were in care homes just like everywhere else.

Am 03.06.2020 um 20:45 schrieb MissRiaElaine:
On 03/06/2020 15:14, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:

I would expect any online shoe retailer to have a system for sending back
things which don't fit, just as online and catalogue retailers of other
clothing items do.

Time. Not everybody wants to wait days or even weeks for items to be
returned, another one sent out, that one sent back as well when it
doesn't fit. I want shoes or clothes that fit now, not in 4 weeks time.

Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:39:59 +0200
Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 03.06.2020 um 20:45 schrieb MissRiaElaine:
On 03/06/2020 15:14, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:

I would expect any online shoe retailer to have a system for sending back
things which don't fit, just as online and catalogue retailers of other
clothing items do.

Time. Not everybody wants to wait days or even weeks for items to be
returned, another one sent out, that one sent back as well when it
doesn't fit. I want shoes or clothes that fit now, not in 4 weeks time.

Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On what planet?

wrote in message ...
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:08:27 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Frankly I'm surprised retailers haven't just
given the goverment the finger and just ignore it since if I owned a
business
that was on the verge of going bust if I didn't then whats to lose.

All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business

If you're a one person trader , eg a small barber , then essentially your
money is the companies.

are subject to an unlimited fine.

I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a
small
amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you
homeless by law.

but they can (subject to following the correct legal process)

HTH

tim

In message , at 09:44:18 on Thu, 4 Jun
2020, remarked:

Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On what planet?

Earth.

--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:53:11 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
wrote in message ...
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:08:27 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Frankly I'm surprised retailers haven't just
given the goverment the finger and just ignore it since if I owned a
business
that was on the verge of going bust if I didn't then whats to lose.

All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business

If you're a one person trader , eg a small barber , then essentially your
money is the companies.

are subject to an unlimited fine.

I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a
small
amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you
homeless by law.

but they can (subject to following the correct legal process)

I remember a famous case in the UK that was captured on TV when a local
counciller and debt collectors tried to do just that. The homeowner shot him
dead. Was in the 70s or 80s IIRC.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:57:25 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:44:18 on Thu, 4 Jun
2020, remarked:

Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On what planet?

Earth.

Not the Earth I live on.

wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 10:53:11 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 17:08:27 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Frankly I'm surprised retailers haven't just
given the goverment the finger and just ignore it since if I owned a
business
that was on the verge of going bust if I didn't then whats to lose.

All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business

If you're a one person trader , eg a small barber , then essentially
your
money is the companies.

are subject to an unlimited fine.

I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a
small
amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make
you
homeless by law.

but they can (subject to following the correct legal process)

I remember a famous case in the UK that was captured on TV when a local
counciller and debt collectors tried to do just that. The homeowner shot
him
dead. Was in the 70s or 80s IIRC.

bad cases make poor laws

tim