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June 3rd 20, 12:43 PM
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New boarding on London's buses
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2020, remarked: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 10:43:18 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:00:02 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:38:49 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 08:25:30 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 23:08:30 -0000 (UTC) Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: At the end of the day it boils down to the simple fact that people are not going to sit back and put up with lockdown indefinitely. Sooner or later, people will say enough is enough. My other half needs new shoes. The high street still looks like Sunday in the sixties, will she have to go barefoot before she can get any..? Surely shoes are available to purchase online? Buying shoes without trying them on first? Really? Thanks to the EU's Distance Selling Directive (which some people apparently want to see flushed down the toilet as part of the bundle of Brussels rule-taking) your purchase isn't final until you've had a chance to try them on and potentially send them back. Getting your money back isn't the issue, its the hassle of having to send them back Print out a label, drop it into an inconvenience store. Simples. If you mean parcel them back up, go queue in the post office for hours behind some pensioners, hand over money for delivery then yes, its simples. No, print a pre-paid label and drop it off in a couple of minutes at the local One-Stop (or similar). plus not having the shoes to wear in the meantime. Order them in plenty of time. I don't think many people buy shoes or clothes because they're about to run out. So why wouldn't you have any shoes to wear? Why are some people so wedded to online that they'll avoid going to an actual shop even when its a lot simpler? In my case it's because the choice is so much wider, especially in the smallish size which I take. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. -- Roland Perry |
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June 3rd 20, 02:24 PM
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 13:43:11 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:25:32 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If you mean parcel them back up, go queue in the post office for hours behind some pensioners, hand over money for delivery then yes, its simples. No, print a pre-paid label and drop it off in a couple of minutes at the local One-Stop (or similar). If by local one-stop you mean the post office you still have to queue behind said pensioners. You can't just lob the parcel over the counter or dump it in a sack and leg it. Or not in our one anyway. plus not having the shoes to wear in the meantime. Order them in plenty of time. I don't think many people buy shoes or clothes because they're about to run out. So why wouldn't you have any shoes to wear? Huh? The point you and others are missing is that with clothes, shoes and a number of other products , eg cars, its a very VERY good idea to try before you buy. Or risk serious disappointment. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. |
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June 3rd 20, 02:33 PM
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In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun
2020, remarked: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 13:43:11 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:25:32 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If you mean parcel them back up, go queue in the post office for hours behind some pensioners, hand over money for delivery then yes, its simples. No, print a pre-paid label and drop it off in a couple of minutes at the local One-Stop (or similar). If by local one-stop It's a popular chain of convenience stores M'Lud. Other brands are available. you mean the post office you still have to queue behind said pensioners. You can't just lob the parcel over the counter or dump it in a sack and leg it. Or not in our one anyway. plus not having the shoes to wear in the meantime. Order them in plenty of time. I don't think many people buy shoes or clothes because they're about to run out. So why wouldn't you have any shoes to wear? Huh? The point you and others are missing is that with clothes, shoes and a number of other products , eg cars, its a very VERY good idea to try before you buy. Or risk serious disappointment. You buy (hanks to the EU) in effect "on approval", and send things back which don't fit. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. You'd think, wouldn't you, but I know several people (men and women) with smaller feet, and it's a significant issue. I also really need a half-size, which are even rarer. -- Roland Perry |
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June 3rd 20, 02:48 PM
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 13:43:11 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:25:32 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If you mean parcel them back up, go queue in the post office for hours behind some pensioners, hand over money for delivery then yes, its simples. No, print a pre-paid label and drop it off in a couple of minutes at the local One-Stop (or similar). If by local one-stop It's a popular chain of convenience stores M'Lud. One which I had never encountered until the first time working in Cambridge (I think they were an East Midlands thing) though I note that they do now have a few stores down ere tim |
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June 3rd 20, 03:19 PM
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:33:40 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If by local one-stop It's a popular chain of convenience stores M'Lud. Other brands are available. Never heard of them. Huh? The point you and others are missing is that with clothes, shoes and a number of other products , eg cars, its a very VERY good idea to try before you buy. Or risk serious disappointment. You buy (hanks to the EU) in effect "on approval", and send things back which don't fit. The EU has nothing to do with being able to return goods not fit for purpose. Thats been british law for decades and I wouldn't be surprised if we gave them the idea. Nor were they involved in credit card companies refunding customers for dodgy goods. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. You'd think, wouldn't you, but I know several people (men and women) with smaller feet, and it's a significant issue. I also really need a half-size, which are even rarer. Just wear the next size up and put in a thick insole. Simples. |
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June 3rd 20, 04:46 PM
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:19:52 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:33:40 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If by local one-stop It's a popular chain of convenience stores M'Lud. Other brands are available. Never heard of them. Huh? The point you and others are missing is that with clothes, shoes and a number of other products , eg cars, its a very VERY good idea to try before you buy. Or risk serious disappointment. You buy (hanks to the EU) in effect "on approval", and send things back which don't fit. The EU has nothing to do with being able to return goods not fit for purpose. Thats been british law for decades and I wouldn't be surprised if we gave them the idea. Goods which are supplied in accordance with a description and your order are not "not fit for purpose". The more recent laws allowing goods bought at a distance to be returned do not care if they are in perfect condition; simply taking a dislike to them is sufficient reason to return them. Unlike defective goods, you have to pay the return cost unless the supplier has decided to bear that expense. Nor were they involved in credit card companies refunding customers for dodgy goods. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. You'd think, wouldn't you, but I know several people (men and women) with smaller feet, and it's a significant issue. I also really need a half-size, which are even rarer. Just wear the next size up and put in a thick insole. Simples. Not a podiatrist, are you ? |
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June 3rd 20, 05:25 PM
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June 3rd 20, 03:59 PM
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:33:40 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 13:43:11 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:25:32 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: If you mean parcel them back up, go queue in the post office for hours behind some pensioners, hand over money for delivery then yes, its simples. No, print a pre-paid label and drop it off in a couple of minutes at the local One-Stop (or similar). If by local one-stop It's a popular chain of convenience stores M'Lud. Other brands are available. you mean the post office you still have to queue behind said pensioners. ITYF most don't need to go to the Post Office any more, one of the reasons why branches are being closed. Having accompanied someone else (not a pensioner) a few times to a Post Office recently, today was the first time we found ourselves waiting behind an elderly person. You can't just lob the parcel over the counter or dump it in a sack and leg it. Or not in our one anyway. plus not having the shoes to wear in the meantime. Order them in plenty of time. I don't think many people buy shoes or clothes because they're about to run out. So why wouldn't you have any shoes to wear? Huh? The point you and others are missing is that with clothes, shoes and a number of other products , eg cars, its a very VERY good idea to try before you buy. Or risk serious disappointment. You buy (hanks to the EU) in effect "on approval", and send things back which don't fit. Thats up to you. I only order online when I don't have a choice because shops don't sell it - eg gym equipment. Otherwise going to a physical shop is a lot simpler. Physical shops have a very limited selection in my size. Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. You'd think, wouldn't you, but I know several people (men and women) with smaller feet, and it's a significant issue. I also really need a half-size, which are even rarer. |
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June 3rd 20, 04:17 PM
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:24:20 on Wed, 3 Jun 2020, remarked: Thats unfortunate, but you're clearly a special case. Most people can buy shoes that fit in shops. You'd think, wouldn't you, but I know several people (men and women) with smaller feet, and it's a significant issue. I also really need a half-size, which are even rarer. Those with large feet also suffer the same problem. It does sometimes make choosing shoes easier when there are only three pairs in the shop which fit. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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