On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:


This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/

I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

What other alternatives are there?

Extend Barking Riverside under the river?
Take Crossrail into Thamesmead?

Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to
have gone to Thamesmead in the first place.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:


This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/

I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

What other alternatives are there?

Extend Barking Riverside under the river?
Take Crossrail into Thamesmead?

Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to
have gone to Thamesmead in the first place.

Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the
Olympics.

On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:


This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/

I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

What other alternatives are there?

Extend Barking Riverside under the river?
Take Crossrail into Thamesmead?

Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to
have gone to Thamesmead in the first place.

Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the
Olympics.


The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:


This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/

I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

What other alternatives are there?

Extend Barking Riverside under the river?
Take Crossrail into Thamesmead?

Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to
have gone to Thamesmead in the first place.

Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the
Olympics.


The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration.


Yes, but the Olympics triggered the redevelopment of the area to the
northwest of Stratford station.

On 2020-08-02 21:17:18 +0000, Graeme Wall said:

On 02/08/2020 17:35, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:11, Graham Harrison wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:15:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:


This consultation dates from 2020 BC (Before Covid) so I'm not sure if
this project is even alive now. There's a map at
https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/202...smead-advance/


I'm mystified by the plan. Would the trains reverse at Beckton to get
there? Or would Beckton have its own service and Thamesmead have its own
service? Extending from Woolwich seems to make more sense - or reversing
at Woolwich, since the trains actually curve around under the river to
come into Woolwich from the east. This would give people in Thamesmead
direct service to Woolwich and City Airport, whereas plugging them into
the Beckton Branch doesn't really give them much. It would also remove
the extra Thames Tunnel from the plan, so should work out cheaper.

What other alternatives are there?

Extend Barking Riverside under the river?
Take Crossrail into Thamesmead?

Wasn't the original version (Fleet Line) of the Jubilee line supposed to
have gone to Thamesmead in the first place.

Yes, but that was before Canary Wharf subsidised the diversion, and the
Olympics.


The rerouting was long before the Olympics were a consideration.

While the Olympics were the vehicle by which the redevelopment
happened, at the time the JLE was in planning, it was clear that
redevelopment in some format would take place, and providing better
transport links was intended to facilitate this (along with the white
elephant international station at Stratford).

Robin