Spyke wrote:
At the moment (Tuesday 20:30ish) the Tube website is reporting 'Good
Service' on all lines except the Northern, when supposedly the
strike should've started 2 hours ago.
Is this really the case or just LUL being slow to communicate
information?

I assume it's because the site staff are on strike. The LU press centre
have promised an update to the media at 21:00 this evening, so perhaps
we'll get something posted then. The RMT site is, as usual, 4 days
behind the times.

Anyone seen an LU train in the last hour?

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In article , Richard J. wrote:

Anyone seen an LU train in the last hour?

I did my usual journey from Leicester Square to Hammersmith at 5:30 this
evening - no problems at all, if anything the train was a little less
crowded than usual, weirdly..

Tomorrow morning should be interesting, though.. I think I'm bussing it
to Hyde Park Corner and walking from there!


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In article om, Grendel wrote:
In article , Richard J. wrote:

Anyone seen an LU train in the last hour?

I did my usual journey from Leicester Square to Hammersmith at 5:30 this
evening - no problems at all, if anything the train was a little less
crowded than usual, weirdly..

Those who could probably found non-LU routes to use. I know I did.

I don't commute into central London, but last night I wanted to meet up
with a friend who was staying at a hotel on Pepys St. Living and working
along the Waterloo-Reading line, I ended up going to London Bridge via
Waterloo East and walking across Tower Bridge...

Niklas
--
"I know that most airline computer systems are presumably kept running by flying
in consultants from the nursing homes around Armonk..."
-- Matt Roberds

I did my usual journey last night home too!

Got to OXford Circus to go down to Waterloo at 8pm, and the Bakerloo was
running fine! A sign at OC said that "trains would be stopping at 8pm",
but I got on one at 8.02, and there were two more after that displayed on
Countdown !


There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's only the
jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...


"Grendel" wrote in message
ry.com...
In article , Richard J.
wrote:

Anyone seen an LU train in the last hour?

I did my usual journey from Leicester Square to Hammersmith at 5:30 this
evening - no problems at all, if anything the train was a little less
crowded than usual, weirdly..

Tomorrow morning should be interesting, though.. I think I'm bussing it
to Hyde Park Corner and walking from there!


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| "It's people like you what cause unrest"

Geoff Marshall wrote:
I did my usual journey last night home too!

Got to OXford Circus to go down to Waterloo at 8pm, and the
Bakerloo was running fine! A sign at OC said that "trains would
be stopping at 8pm", but I got on one at 8.02, and there were two
more after that displayed on Countdown !


There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...

Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service. At 09:30, LU were reporting 95 trains in service,
compared with around 500 for a normal morning peak. In addition to the
Jubilee line closure, there are no Circle line trains, and some lines
have a token service, e.g. only Cockfosters-Arnos Grove on the
Piccadilly; no District trains west of Whitechapel except for a
Gunnersbury-Richmond shuttle.

N.B. These details are on LU's home page, http://tube.tfl.gov.uk , not
on the usual Live Travel News page.

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Richard J.
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...

Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.

Who's driving them?

Anyway, roll on fully automated trains!

tom

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In article , Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...

Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.

Who's driving them?

Ken and his minions?

Anyway, roll on fully automated trains!

Hmmmmmm. Even the DLR would probably be in trouble if the
conductors/Train Managers/whatever they're called went on strike.

Niklas
--
"The trouble with international politics is that it's just like schoolyard
politics amongst a bunch of 8-year-olds. Except that the international
politicians have nuclear weapons."
-- Dylan Smith

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Geoff Marshall wrote:

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...

Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service.

Who's driving them?

aslef drivers.

As usual the media are reporting "thousands of train drivers, signal and
engineering staff are on strike" Maybe they should report the facts. Its
mainly the station, signal and engineering staff" RMT members only make up
less than a 3rd of train ops. You'll find that the amount of staffed
stations is what's limiting the service in such a way. If they could found
more of the managers, and other staff to open the stations you would find
they would be a higher percentage of trains running. Not a full service but
a better one. Instead you'll find alot of drivers sitting around willing to
work.

There's quite a good service running this mornig as well .. it's
only the jubilee i think which doesn't have any service at all ...

Quite good considering there's a strike, but it's less than 20% of the
normal peak service. At 09:30, LU were reporting 95 trains in service,
compared with around 500 for a normal morning peak. In addition to the
Jubilee line closure, there are no Circle line trains, and some lines
have a token service, e.g. only Cockfosters-Arnos Grove on the
Piccadilly; no District trains west of Whitechapel except for a
Gunnersbury-Richmond shuttle.

N.B. These details are on LU's home page, http://tube.tfl.gov.uk , not
on the usual Live Travel News page.

--
Richard J.
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Looking at the real time disruption map (http://map.tfl.gov.uk/realtime.asp)
site at 1245 on Wednesday gives the impression that only the Circle Line is
affected. This is not quite true as noted above and as can also currently be
seen from the descriptions on
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/service_rt_all.shtml. To imply that the
Piccadilly is unaffected when it only operates between Cockfosters and Arnos
Grove, or that the Central Line is operating normally when there is no
service west of Mile End, or that the Jubilee is unaffected when there is no
service south / east of Neasden is more than a little misleading.

The Gunnersbury - Richmond service referred to on the District Line is
presumably actually the Silverlink North Woolwich service? This means that
the District effectively has no service west of Whitechapel yet the real
time map shows no problems. Is this a bit of spin at work or simply a lack
of time to produce an accurate map at a time of uncertainty as to exactly
what might be operating?

J Lynch wrote:

The Gunnersbury - Richmond service referred to on the District Line
is presumably actually the Silverlink North Woolwich service?

LU say it's 2 trains at 20-minute intervals. I think it's likely that 2
District trains were stabled at Richmond overnight and are running a
shuttle service to and from Gunnersbury, under Network Rail signalling,
using ASLEF or rebel RMT drivers.
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