Crossrail and the GWML
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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When I read what they are planning, I think this Cinderella line is being
silently prepared for closure. There is no way anyone will use it, when
buses to Ealing Broadway will give much better journey times to all
Central
Line and District Line destinations, and maybe even Crossrail destinations
too, bearing in mind that Ealing Bdy will have so many more Crossrail
trains
than West Ealing.

Perhaps the solution is to reinstate the GW main line platform at Greenford
and to transfer the service to Chiltern, perhaps a High Wycombe to Ealing
Broadway all-stations service? Being able to get from those stations to
Heathrow/Reading with one change would be a great improvement!

Crossrail and the GWML
 

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
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When I read what they are planning, I think this Cinderella line is
being
silently prepared for closure. There is no way anyone will use it, when
buses to Ealing Broadway will give much better journey times to all
Central Line and District Line destinations, and maybe even
Crossrail destinations too, bearing in mind that Ealing Bdy
will have so many more Crossrail trains than West Ealing.

Perhaps the solution is to reinstate the GW main line
platform at Greenford and to transfer the service to Chiltern,
perhaps a High Wycombe to Ealing Broadway
all-stations service? Being able to get from those
stations to Heathrow/Reading with one change would
be a great improvement!

I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury and Heathrow via High Wycombe
and South Greenford make a lot more sense. I think this would give a
cross-platform interchange at Hanwell for anyone wanting to travel in either
direction between South Greenford and Ealing Broadway/Paddington/City. New
platform(s) would be needed at Greenford. The line between Drayton Green and
West Ealing would become FGW ECS only. ISTR a service between Heathrow and
Greenford ran after the Ladbroke Grove crash, with no services between
Drayton Green and West Ealing.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

Crossrail and the GWML
 

I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury and Heathrow via High Wycombe
and South Greenford make a lot more sense. I think this would give a
cross-platform interchange at Hanwell for anyone wanting to travel in either
direction between South Greenford and Ealing Broadway/Paddington/City. New
platform(s) would be needed at Greenford. The line between Drayton Green and
West Ealing would become FGW ECS only. ISTR a service between Heathrow and
Greenford ran after the Ladbroke Grove crash, with no services between
Drayton Green and West Ealing.

It was a free shuttle between Ealing Broadway & Heathrow T4.

Running to Greenford would have been hard with no OLE between Hanwell
and Greenford....

Crossrail and the GWML
 

"Matthew" wrote in message
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I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury and Heathrow
via High Wycombe and South Greenford make a lot more sense.
ISTR a service between Heathrow and Greenford ran
after the Ladbroke Grove crash, with no services between
Drayton Green and West Ealing.

It was a free shuttle between Ealing Broadway & Heathrow T4.

Oh yeah, the Greenford trains terminated at Southall.

Running to Greenford would have been hard with
no OLE between Hanwell and Greenford....

blush That kind of scuppers the whole idea!

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

Crossrail and the GWML
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
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When I read what they are planning, I think this Cinderella line is
being
silently prepared for closure. There is no way anyone will use it, when
buses to Ealing Broadway will give much better journey times to all
Central Line and District Line destinations, and maybe even
Crossrail destinations too, bearing in mind that Ealing Bdy
will have so many more Crossrail trains than West Ealing.

Perhaps the solution is to reinstate the GW main line
platform at Greenford and to transfer the service to Chiltern,
perhaps a High Wycombe to Ealing Broadway
all-stations service? Being able to get from those
stations to Heathrow/Reading with one change would
be a great improvement!

I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury and Heathrow via High Wycombe
and South Greenford make a lot more sense. I think this would give a
cross-platform interchange at Hanwell for anyone wanting to travel in either
direction between South Greenford and Ealing Broadway/Paddington/City. New
platform(s) would be needed at Greenford. The line between Drayton Green and
West Ealing would become FGW ECS only. ISTR a service between Heathrow and
Greenford ran after the Ladbroke Grove crash, with no services between
Drayton Green and West Ealing.

Wow! You just made it easy to get to Heathrow from the West Midlands -
just one change (same platform) at Princes' Risboro' or High Wycombe
(depending on where the train's stopping). Is there a curve facing the
right way onto the BR line at Greenford? ISTR that there's one facing
back towards Pad and one into a bay, but I don't recall a third.

Crossrail and the GWML
 

"James" wrote in message
m...
"John Rowland" wrote in message
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I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury
and Heathrow via High Wycombe
and South Greenford make a lot more sense.

Is there a curve facing the right way onto the BR line at Greenford?

All the curves are there, but the line isn't electrified, and diesel trains
aren't allowed through the Heathrow tunnel

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

Crossrail and the GWML
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
"James" wrote in message
m...
"John Rowland" wrote in message
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I think a "direct" service between Aylesbury
and Heathrow via High Wycombe
and South Greenford make a lot more sense.

Is there a curve facing the right way onto the BR line at Greenford?

All the curves are there, but the line isn't electrified, and diesel trains
aren't allowed through the Heathrow tunnel

How about dual-modes?

Crossrail and the GWML
 

In message , at 20:26:53
on Sun, 29 Aug 2004, James remarked:
All the curves are there, but the line isn't electrified, and diesel trains
aren't allowed through the Heathrow tunnel

How about dual-modes?

Apparently not. Perhaps they don't want the risk of a fire underground
with all that fuel (and a rather important national asset at ground
level).
--
Roland Perry

Crossrail and the GWML
 

Roland Perry wrote in message o.uk...
In message , at 20:26:53
on Sun, 29 Aug 2004, James remarked:
All the curves are there, but the line isn't electrified, and diesel trains
aren't allowed through the Heathrow tunnel

How about dual-modes?

Apparently not. Perhaps they don't want the risk of a fire underground
with all that fuel (and a rather important national asset at ground
level).

Okay, so two ways of doing this:
1) Get a rake of Mk II or Mk III Stock, and haul it with an 86, 87, or
90 over the Airport Line, with a loco change at Southall or somewhere
to a 47.
2) Get an AC EMU (like the 321s eventually coming off Sliverlink, or
maybe nick a 390 off VT), then attach/detach said 47 at Southall.