"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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Who can I complain to to ensure he loses
his job, or at the bery least is forced to ride
a bike for 50 miles arround London.

Anyone who drives a car will be delayed on a regular basis by cyclists. This
time the cyclist was delayed by the motor vehicle. It happens. Get over it.

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John Rowland wrote:
Anyone who drives a car will be delayed on a regular basis by cyclists. This
time the cyclist was delayed by the motor vehicle. It happens. Get over it.

Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

OTOH, as a cyclist I have been delayed by motorists on a few thousand
occasions [1]. Usually only small delays, but very real delays nonetheless.

[1] Yes, really. At a rough estimate I have made about 4000 cycle
journeys at rush hour. Most of those journeys will have involved more
than one delay resulting from the congestion caused by motor vehicles.

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"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

They're not so much worried about the delay, which they must know is
almost always temporary, as following the golden rule that all
cyclists must be instantly overtaken regardless of the circumstances.

If you are slotted into a long line of 20 mph traffic, where there is
no question of delaying anyone, they will still try to pass you even
though there is clearly no gap to pull into. Failure to do so would be
a violation of the golden rule.

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On 9 Sep 2004, Dave Kahn wrote:

"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

They're not so much worried about the delay, which they must know is
almost always temporary, as following the golden rule that all cyclists
must be instantly overtaken regardless of the circumstances.

Sadly, this also seems to apply at red lights. I've lost count of how many
times i've cycled up alongside a line of traffic at some lights and come
to rest a little way ahead of the stop line (i'm a sinner, i know), only
for the car next to me to rev up and move forward all of six inches to
draw level ...

ASL's all round, i say.

tom

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David Splett wrote:


Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.



Yesterday cycling up the Strand to Trafalgar Square the motorised
vehicles were causing me a lot of delay. I got off and walked along the
pavement and was still way quicker than the cars, taxis, vans and buses
in the queue

Tony

Paul Weaver wrote:

Riding my rather groovy OYbike (details to follow) up wood lane at 18:20
this evening, passed dozens of cars, vans, lorries, no problem, then, just
south of TVC, a double decker bus was blocking the lane. I peers arround the
right but there was no way I was going to chance riding on the outside of
the traffic facing those vehicles. Had to get off and walk past the bus on
the pavement. The bus was a 220, W reg, possibly W9#XXX. When confronted his
response was "**** you". Who can I complain to to ensure he loses his job,
or at the bery least is forced to ride a bike for 50 miles arround London.

I can't quite understand what the issue is here, but a few years ago a
bus rushed passed me like a mountain of solid air, much too close for my
comfort, and 50m down the road took the wing mirror off a parked car.

I said to him - very politely, as he was taking down the details of the
car he'd damaged - "excuse me, I thought you were too close to me as
well." He dismissed me rudely, saying he'd been "miles away" from me.

I wrote to the bus company, and got a polite letter apologising for the
incident and saying the driver had been sent on extra training.

Daniele
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I said to him - very politely, as he was taking down the details of the
car he'd damaged - "excuse me, I thought you were too close to me as
well." He dismissed me rudely, saying he'd been "miles away" from me.

I wrote to the bus company, and got a polite letter apologising for the
incident and saying the driver had been sent on extra training.

Not quite the same as the 'threat' to personal safety posed by a stationary
vehicle. Some folk invite rude behaviour from others by the self-righteous
stances that they assume. In a previous thread I, mentioned that at my most
agitated I might shake my head in disbelief or mock sorrow at the
misdemeanours of other road users and get on with the rest of my life.
Getting worked up and taking the time to write about a parked bus indicates
a serious lack of laissez faire. Move on forget it. I doubt a sacking will
take place. London would grind to a standstill if all transport employees
were sacked on demand because of their rude behaviour.

As for OYBIKE.


OYBike have at least two operators, and when I was riding back to work, I
head someone exclaim "there's another one" - so I'm not the only customer
they've had,

I work at White City Station and I've seen these monstrosity looking bikes
totally appearing to be unused.
I assume its YOU that have rented one of the four that were clipped up there
outside the Station? Three seems to remain or is the fourth now back in
position?

I wouldnt be seen dead riding one them unless it was for charity. Why cant
they provide decent looking bikes?
The whole thing is a joke. And how much are they per hour or whatever the
telephone call is? Is it Premium Rate? Tell us please.


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"redtube" wrote in message
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As for OYBIKE.


OYBike have at least two operators, and when I was riding back to work,
I
head someone exclaim "there's another one" - so I'm not the only
customer
they've had,

I work at White City Station and I've seen these monstrosity looking bikes
totally appearing to be unused.
I assume its YOU that have rented one of the four that were clipped up
there
outside the Station? Three seems to remain or is the fourth now back in
position?

I wouldnt be seen dead riding one them unless it was for charity. Why cant
they provide decent looking bikes?
The whole thing is a joke. And how much are they per hour or whatever the
telephone call is? Is it Premium Rate? Tell us please.

Yeah, they look pretty goofy, but you have to try them out at least once

Yeah, it was me that took the bike. Put it back on the other stand (there's
two at white city).

The phone call is an 0845 number, takes about a minute at check in and check
out. Add the 30p/80p to rent and it mounts up.

I dont think they'll get enough customers to pay for the person on the
phone, let alone the maintenece and overheads.

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