"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

They're not so much worried about the delay, which they must know is
almost always temporary, as following the golden rule that all
cyclists must be instantly overtaken regardless of the circumstances.

If you are slotted into a long line of 20 mph traffic, where there is
no question of delaying anyone, they will still try to pass you even
though there is clearly no gap to pull into. Failure to do so would be
a violation of the golden rule.

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Dave...

On 9 Sep 2004, Dave Kahn wrote:

"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Interesting. In 14 years of driving I have never actually been delayed
by a cyclist. There have been occasions when I've had to wait until it
was safe to pass a cyclist, but after getting past it never takes long
to catch up with the next traffic jam.

Unfortunately the thought process of most drivers doesn't extend this far.
I'd say bikes cause far less delay to cars than any form of motorized
vehicle.

They're not so much worried about the delay, which they must know is
almost always temporary, as following the golden rule that all cyclists
must be instantly overtaken regardless of the circumstances.

Sadly, this also seems to apply at red lights. I've lost count of how many
times i've cycled up alongside a line of traffic at some lights and come
to rest a little way ahead of the stop line (i'm a sinner, i know), only
for the car next to me to rev up and move forward all of six inches to
draw level ...

ASL's all round, i say.

tom

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So the moon is approximately 24 toasters from S****horpe.

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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Sadly, this also seems to apply at red lights. I've lost count of how many
times i've cycled up alongside a line of traffic at some lights and come
to rest a little way ahead of the stop line (i'm a sinner, i know), only
for the car next to me to rev up and move forward all of six inches to
draw level ...

rant

I downright refuse to stop before that green bit at the front of the lights
that meant for cyclists - I always stop on it! Why should the miserable,
pavement-pedallers have any more of the road than they already have? They've
got one lane, now they want two extra! When they pay road tax like we do,
then I might consider it!

/rant

Ian

"Ian F." writes:

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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Sadly, this also seems to apply at red lights. I've lost count of how many
times i've cycled up alongside a line of traffic at some lights and come
to rest a little way ahead of the stop line (i'm a sinner, i know), only
for the car next to me to rev up and move forward all of six inches to
draw level ...

rant

I downright refuse to stop before that green bit at the front of the lights
that meant for cyclists - I always stop on it! Why should the miserable,
pavement-pedallers have any more of the road than they already have? They've
got one lane, now they want two extra! When they pay road tax like we do,
then I might consider it!

/rant

Good point. It's important to get your money's worth from your road
tax.

"Ambrose Nankivell" wrote in message
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Good point. It's important to get your money's worth from your road
tax.

LOL. Now you've taken the edge of my rant!

Ian

"Ian F." wrote in message
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rant
I downright refuse to stop before that green bit at the front of the
lights
that meant for cyclists - I always stop on it! Why should the miserable,
pavement-pedallers have any more of the road than they already have?
They've
got one lane, now they want two extra! When they pay road tax like we do,
then I might consider it!
/rant

It might be a downright refusal on your part, but it's not a very clever
one. When I'm cycling and I encounter cars that haven't stopped in the
correct place, I simply pass over the ASL and stop in front of them.

Why not just learn to drive your vehicle correctly, or do you get some kind
of flagilatory thrill from being tense and stressed?

"David Splett" wrote in message
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It might be a downright refusal on your part, but it's not a very clever
one.

I'm not claiming it *is* clever. It's just my daft little protest against
people using our roads who don't pay for them! ;-)

When I'm cycling and I encounter cars that haven't stopped in the
correct place, I simply pass over the ASL and stop in front of them.

ASL?

Why not just learn to drive your vehicle correctly, or do you get some
kind
of flagilatory thrill from being tense and stressed?

I do drive my vehicle correctly. And I'm not tense, or stressed, or prone to
flagellatory flights of fancy. I just hate cyclists and the way they
(present company excepted) reckon they own the road - riding on the
pavement, jumping red lights, yelling abuse at elderly people and so on.

Ian

Ian F. wrote:

And I'm not [...] prone to
flagellatory flights of fancy.

That's not what I've heard! :-)

Ian F. wrote:
I just hate cyclists and the way they
(present company excepted) reckon they own the road - riding on the
pavement, jumping red lights, yelling abuse at elderly people and so on.

This chap *has* to be posting from utl. I've read that POB's[1] tend to
do that sort of thing a lot in London.

[1] People On Bikes, as opposed to Real Cyclists.

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