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Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
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eurostardriver writes Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL, but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding. Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding there 3 times worse. I quite agree: it seems quite crazy. Only a proportion of Thameslink commuters would surely want to use one of these, if they have a sensible onward route via the Northern (Kentish Town) or Jubilee (West Hampstead) lines, the others will continue to St.Pancras as it serves several other lines, thus diluting the otherwise inevitable overload at Kings Cross LT station. Both KT and WH stations seemed to cope quite well during the periods when they acted as termini with *all* services stopping short of Kings Cross/St.Pancras. Kentish Town has a good connection with quite wide passageways and staircases; West Hampstead LT station is over 100 metres from the Thameslink station, which means that any rush when a Thameslink train arrives will thin out as people walk along and across the main road. Can anyone think of the real reason for this closure? -- Clive Page |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
"Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message
... Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform. I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
In message , John Rowland
writes "Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message ... Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform. I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed. Might cause a bit of a problem in neutral sections. -- Spyke Address is valid, but messages are treated as junk. The opinions I express do not necessarily reflect those of the educational institution from which I post. |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11thSeptember 2004 until 2005
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Clive Page wrote:
In article , eurostardriver writes Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL, but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding. Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding there 3 times worse. I quite agree: it seems quite crazy. It does, but ... Can anyone think of the real reason for this closure? .... TfL claim they've done traffic modelling, and the loads on those stations would be too high. I suspect they know more about the flows than we do, and so are in a position to make this judgement. tom -- The revolving disc of plagues is particularly fun. -- greengolux |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:46:46 +0100, Clive Page
wrote: In article , eurostardriver writes Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL, but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding. Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding there 3 times worse. I quite agree: it seems quite crazy....... Can anyone think of the real reason for this closure? It was an LU ploy to get a larger proportion of the fares?? -- Peter Lawrence |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message ... Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform. I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed. Would be a bit annoying at neutral sections, where the OLE is deliberately dead... |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11thSeptember 2004 until 2005
Peter Lawrence wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:46:46 +0100, Clive Page wrote: In article , eurostardriver writes Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL, but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding. Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding there 3 times worse. I quite agree: it seems quite crazy....... Can anyone think of the real reason for this closure? It was an LU ploy to get a larger proportion of the fares?? Hardly. Regular commuters travelling onwards from St Pancras by tube will have a Travelcard anyway; people travelling to West Hampstead & Kentish Town are permitted to travel in to St Pancras and return by a northbound train during the closure. Irregular users travelling between Thameslink and LU stations would have to pay a higher proportion of their fare to LU by using West Hampstead or Kentish Town as these are both in Zone 2. I don't think LU would get a noticeably higher proportion of fares whether West Hampstead and Kentish Town were open to southbound TL pax or not! -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
In message , David H Wild
writes In article , John Rowland wrote: Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform. I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed. No, they are not. I have been on a 321 which coasted from Harrow and Wealdstone to near Primrose Hill when the power failed. I have also experienced a power failure after departing Highbury & Islington in the Drayton Park to Moorgate 'underground section' whilst on a WAGN 313. The driver announced on the PA that we were in fact coasting downhill and therefore should reach Essex Road without any problems, apart from the fact that all the lights had gone out. Even this was a bit overly pessimistic as I noticed that the lights over the entry/exit sliding doors were still alight, even if the remaining carriage lights had indeed been extinguished. (I found that quite comforting.) As it happened, just as we arrived at Essex Rd, the power came back on and so our journey to Moorgate continued without further interruptions. Bob. -- Bob Adams - email address: |
Blockade of cross London Thameslink services from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005
"David H Wild" wrote in message
... I have been on a 321 which coasted from Harrow and Wealdstone to near Primrose Hill when the power failed. Wow. I wonder why he didn't stop at a station - surely this would have been more useful than leaving you all sitting near Primrose Hill for an unspecified time. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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