As you may be aware, in conjunction with the building of a new box tunnel
for a new Thameslink station, there will be no cross London Thameslink
service from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005.

Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible, because of
the extra passenger traffic expected because of this blockade.

More details can be found at:

http://www.travelbuddy.info

In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the next
nearest stations are quite a long way away.)
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the
next nearest stations are quite a long way away.)

Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

--
Best regards,

Piers

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the next
nearest stations are quite a long way away.)

Euston, Euston Square and Russell Square arn't that far away by foot!

In message , at 21:56:34 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the next
nearest stations are quite a long way away.)

Euston, Euston Square and Russell Square arn't that far away by foot!

Yes they are, especially as you have to negotiate the works outside St
Pancras. I've done it a few times when KX has been closed for security
reasons.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote in message o.uk...
In message , at 21:56:34 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the next
nearest stations are quite a long way away.)

Euston, Euston Square and Russell Square arn't that far away by foot!

Yes they are, especially as you have to negotiate the works outside St
Pancras. I've done it a few times when KX has been closed for security
reasons.

Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL,
but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call
at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding.
Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be
forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding
there 3 times worse.

Regards

E*driver

In message , at
00:47:14 on Wed, 8 Sep 2004, eurostardriver
remarked:
Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL,
but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call
at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding.
Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be
forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding
there 3 times worse.

Perhaps it's easier to control at KX? They can close the way into the
underground station (I've seen them do this by putting people at the top
of the stairs outside the GNER ticket office on the mainline concourse),
as well as by turning off the ticket barriers thus stopping people using
the down escalators.
--
Roland Perry

"eurostardriver" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote in message
o.uk...
In message , at 21:56:34 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Kentish Town or West Hampstead provide useful interchanges onto LUL,
but some clever person has decided Thameslink services will not call
at these stations between 07.30 and 09.30 to prevent overcrowding.
Doesn't make much sense to me as this means all passengers will be
forced into the Kings Cross/St Pancras area making the overcrowding
there 3 times worse.

Regards

E*driver

Thameslink didn't want this. It was at the insistance of LUL as they stated
that the platforms at West Hampstead and Kentish Town underground stations
cannot safely handle large numbers of pax.

Neil

"Piers Connor" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...


Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is
routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Best regards,
Piers

Are you casting aspersions on us signallers at West Hampstead PSB.

Westcad (new signalling control for St.Pancras) is run as a separate entity
to the rest of the signalling at WH.PSB and all the signallers on it are
straight off the street with less than 6 months experience and are not
passed out for any of the "entry/exit" panels in the 'box.

Up until now they have had it very easy only signalling 4 trains in and out
per hour.
From the start of the blockade it will be very different and in the morning
peak will be running 17 trains in and out per hour.

Anyway to answer your concern about putting a Thameslink train into
platforms 8 and 9 (non-electrified), if the signaller tries to set a route
into platform 8 or 9 the system actually pops up a question asking you if
the train is an electric or not before setting the route. So, as long as
these new signallers know the difference between a Thameslink and a MML
train we'll have no problems!!!

Cadman

"Piers Connor" wrote:
Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Aren't the current platforms at St. Pancras all electrified? If so, then quite
a while.