As you may be aware, in conjunction with the building of a new box tunnel
for a new Thameslink station, there will be no cross London Thameslink
service from Saturday 11th September 2004 until 2005.

Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible, because of
the extra passenger traffic expected because of this blockade.

More details can be found at:

http://www.travelbuddy.info

In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the next
nearest stations are quite a long way away.)
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...

(And unfortunately for such an important transport destination, the
next nearest stations are quite a long way away.)

Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

--
Best regards,

Piers

"Piers Connor" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:19:56 on
Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Robin Mayes
remarked:
Please avoid using Kings Cross underground station, if possible

Most people who can avoid using it, already do avoid using it...


Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is
routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Best regards,
Piers

Are you casting aspersions on us signallers at West Hampstead PSB.

Westcad (new signalling control for St.Pancras) is run as a separate entity
to the rest of the signalling at WH.PSB and all the signallers on it are
straight off the street with less than 6 months experience and are not
passed out for any of the "entry/exit" panels in the 'box.

Up until now they have had it very easy only signalling 4 trains in and out
per hour.
From the start of the blockade it will be very different and in the morning
peak will be running 17 trains in and out per hour.

Anyway to answer your concern about putting a Thameslink train into
platforms 8 and 9 (non-electrified), if the signaller tries to set a route
into platform 8 or 9 the system actually pops up a question asking you if
the train is an electric or not before setting the route. So, as long as
these new signallers know the difference between a Thameslink and a MML
train we'll have no problems!!!

Cadman

"Piers Connor" wrote:
Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Aren't the current platforms at St. Pancras all electrified? If so, then quite
a while.

"Matt Ashby" wrote in message
m...
"Piers Connor" wrote:
Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is
routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Aren't the current platforms at St. Pancras all electrified? If so, then
quite
a while.

Don't forget that the current St.Pancras is the new Interim Station and
presently only platforms 10,11,12 and 13 are wired and energised.
All wiring for the old station were taken out quite early on during the CTRL
construction work.

Cadman

"Piers Connor" wrote in message


Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?


Why ask such a question ?

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.


The sort of comment you have made is what leads to uninformed nonsense
appearing on the media after an accident.

--
Nick

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

A couple of years ago a 319 failed south of Bedford, and another unit was
despatched to collect it. This second unit was routed via a non-electrified
connection between the up and down lines. The pan disengaged and brought the
wires down.

Some time before that a 319 was routed into the then new Platform 4 at
Bedford station.

So, yes, it happens all the time.

Peter Goodland.

D7666 wrote:
Why ask such a question ?

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

Because people do sometimes make mistakes?

During the Ipswich Tunnel closure, an Intercity set was routed on to the
Lowestoft Line, where the was no power.
Also a few years ago, an 86+set was routed away from the wires at Norwich.

--
Darren

Rail Pics: http://photos.darrenjohnson.co.uk/
Website : http://www.darrenjohnson.co.uk/

In message , at
14:32:11 on Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Darren ] remarked:
Why ask such a question ? Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification
WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

Because people do sometimes make mistakes?

During the Ipswich Tunnel closure, an Intercity set was routed on to
the Lowestoft Line, where the was no power.
Also a few years ago, an 86+set was routed away from the wires at Norwich.

And someone posted only a week ago about a GNER E* set that was sent
onto a branch with no electrification, somewhere well north of
Peterborough I think.
--
Roland Perry