Today (Sun Oct 10, 2004), the Epping Ongar Railway Preservation
Society ran a train service using a single class 117 DMU from Ongar to
North Weald and back; a week previously, almost 10 years to the day
since the Central Line service was withdrawn, a test service was run
on Oct 3.

http://www.eorailway.co.uk/news.htm

I wonder if this means that the EOR actually has a future. I also
wonder about that DMU livery, and the precise relationship between the
original EOR company that bought the line and this new EORPS that ran
the trains today.

TheOneKEA wrote:
Today (Sun Oct 10, 2004), the Epping Ongar Railway Preservation
Society ran a train service using a single class 117 DMU from Ongar to
North Weald and back; a week previously, almost 10 years to the day
since the Central Line service was withdrawn, a test service was run
on Oct 3.

http://www.eorailway.co.uk/news.htm

I wonder if this means that the EOR actually has a future. I also
wonder about that DMU livery, and the precise relationship between the
original EOR company that bought the line and this new EORPS that ran
the trains today.
Having grew up in Ongar (lucky me) I know quite a lot of what
happened. When it was sold off there were tow options - Epping Ongar
Railway and a preservation society. Epping Ongar Railway won the bid
and everybody knew that they couldnt really make any money from it.
However there was loads of land included at North Weald and Ongar (Goods
Yard etc) which is now going to have houses built on it - surprise
surprise. It now looks like they are getting volunteers involved so it
doesnt cost them anything.

The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour

TheOneKEA wrote:
Today (Sun Oct 10, 2004), the Epping Ongar Railway Preservation
Society ran a train service using a single class 117 DMU from Ongar to
North Weald and back; a week previously, almost 10 years to the day
since the Central Line service was withdrawn, a test service was run
on Oct 3.

http://www.eorailway.co.uk/news.htm

I wonder if this means that the EOR actually has a future. I also
wonder about that DMU livery, and the precise relationship between the
original EOR company that bought the line and this new EORPS that ran
the trains today.

Shame that on Sunday it costs £4 to get from Ongar to Epping, but £2 to
get from there to West Ruislip :-)

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

James Looker wrote:

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The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour

How is this a "stuff up by Labour"?

"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message
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James Looker wrote:

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The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour

How is this a "stuff up by Labour"?

I was wondering this too. IIRC Epping-Ongar closed in 1994, several years
before Labour came to power.
Please explain your reasoning James.....

(TheOneKEA) wrote in message . com...
Today (Sun Oct 10, 2004), the Epping Ongar Railway Preservation
Society ran a train service using a single class 117 DMU from Ongar to
North Weald and back; a week previously, almost 10 years to the day
since the Central Line service was withdrawn, a test service was run
on Oct 3.

http://www.eorailway.co.uk/news.htm

I wonder if this means that the EOR actually has a future. I also
wonder about that DMU livery, and the precise relationship between the
original EOR company that bought the line and this new EORPS that ran
the trains today.

A dreary DMU running through some flat dreary countryside. Yeah , that'll
have the tourist flocking in in droves. Why did they bother. If they'd
been running old LU rolling stock borrowed from Acton or the Cravens group
with a track connection at Epping it would have been wonderful. But this?
I'll give it a couple of years before the line is derelict again , this time
for good.

B2003

Colin wrote:

"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message
...

James Looker wrote:

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The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour


How is this a "stuff up by Labour"?


I was wondering this too. IIRC Epping-Ongar closed in 1994, several
years before Labour came to power.
Please explain your reasoning James.....

It did close in 1994 but it wasnt "sold off" untill 1997 by the Labour
Government choosing a company that was unwanted by the local population
on a business plan that everyone could see was just a premise to gain
the land to flog for housing later on, a situation that has now been
proved right.

Regarding the comment about dreary countryside, this could be only the
beginning with old tube stock or steam introduced at a later date making
the case for tourisim. Regarding a connection at Epping LU refused to
allow them to do this and insisted that any station at Epping would have
to be built 400 or so yards up the line away from Epping station which
the company at the time could not afford.

"James Looker" wrote in message
...
Colin wrote:

"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message
...

James Looker wrote:

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The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour


How is this a "stuff up by Labour"?


I was wondering this too. IIRC Epping-Ongar closed in 1994, several years
before Labour came to power.
Please explain your reasoning James.....

It did close in 1994 but it wasnt "sold off" untill 1997 by the Labour
Government choosing a company that was unwanted by the local population on
a business plan that everyone could see was just a premise to gain the
land to flog for housing later on, a situation that has now been proved
right.

It was LU that sold it, not the government, regardless of political
persuasion..

(Boltar) wrote in message . com...
(TheOneKEA) wrote in message . com...
Today (Sun Oct 10, 2004), the Epping Ongar Railway Preservation
Society ran a train service using a single class 117 DMU from Ongar to
North Weald and back; a week previously, almost 10 years to the day
since the Central Line service was withdrawn, a test service was run
on Oct 3.

http://www.eorailway.co.uk/news.htm

I wonder if this means that the EOR actually has a future. I also
wonder about that DMU livery, and the precise relationship between the
original EOR company that bought the line and this new EORPS that ran
the trains today.

A dreary DMU running through some flat dreary countryside. Yeah , that'll
have the tourist flocking in in droves. Why did they bother. If they'd
been running old LU rolling stock borrowed from Acton or the Cravens group
with a track connection at Epping it would have been wonderful. But this?
I'll give it a couple of years before the line is derelict again , this time
for good.

They did have a 62ts at one point, what happened to that? I know it
couldnt run anymore due to no power but it was historically
interesting.

Are they now a TOC then?

Piccadilly Pilot wrote:
"James Looker" wrote in message
...

Colin wrote:

"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote in message
...


James Looker wrote:

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The preservation society shpuld of got it and Ongar would now have a
tourist attraction like the Bluebell line....

Another stuff up by Labour


How is this a "stuff up by Labour"?


I was wondering this too. IIRC Epping-Ongar closed in 1994, several years
before Labour came to power.
Please explain your reasoning James.....

It did close in 1994 but it wasnt "sold off" untill 1997 by the Labour
Government choosing a company that was unwanted by the local population on
a business plan that everyone could see was just a premise to gain the
land to flog for housing later on, a situation that has now been proved
right.


It was LU that sold it, not the government, regardless of political
persuasion..


Nope, it was the Government who decided who it went to, not LU.