Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C? and where was it gonna be
extended to?
You can see it here on this old tube map
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

In message , Bored Of The
Rings writes

Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C?

The 1949 plan shown on the map was abandoned because of cost (before the
war a similar plan had been curtailed to just a 515-foot siding beyond
Elephant).

and where was it gonna be extended to?

In that particular incarnation, Camberwell (Green). For more detail, see
the History section of:

http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html

--
Paul Terry

Paul Terry wrote in message ...
In message , Bored Of The
Rings writes

Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C?

The 1949 plan shown on the map was abandoned because of cost (before the
war a similar plan had been curtailed to just a 515-foot siding beyond
Elephant).

and where was it gonna be extended to?

In that particular incarnation, Camberwell (Green). For more detail, see
the History section of:

http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html

Later, as http://www.addington3.freeserve.co.uk/tranmon3.html
explains, the JLE proposal was originally a BLE proposal.

Paul Terry wrote in message ...
In message , Bored Of The
Rings writes

Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C?

The 1949 plan shown on the map was abandoned because of cost (before the
war a similar plan had been curtailed to just a 515-foot siding beyond
Elephant).

and where was it gonna be extended to?

In that particular incarnation, Camberwell (Green). For more detail, see
the History section of:

http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html

ISTR hearing a long time ago that there were murmurings of this
proposal staging Yet Another Comeback.

Personally I think it will never see the light of day, unless Kenny L
can find the cash in his 3bilGBP TfL package.

TheOneKEA wrote:
Paul Terry wrote in message ...

In message , Bored Of The
Rings writes


Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C?

The 1949 plan shown on the map was abandoned because of cost (before the
war a similar plan had been curtailed to just a 515-foot siding beyond
Elephant).


and where was it gonna be extended to?

In that particular incarnation, Camberwell (Green). For more detail, see
the History section of:

http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/bakerloo.html


ISTR hearing a long time ago that there were murmurings of this
proposal staging Yet Another Comeback.

Personally I think it will never see the light of day, unless Kenny L
can find the cash in his 3bilGBP TfL package.

Certainly little likelihood at the moment at Cross River Transit covers
a significant proportion of Walworth and Peckham (although not Camberwell).
http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/2

Transport plans for Walworth Road and Camberwell include re-opening the
former stations there, on the Thameslink service to Sutton/Wimbledon.
Those plans are very sketchy though.
http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/57

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Bored Of The Rings" wrote in message ...
Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C? and where was it gonna be
extended to?
You can see it here on this old tube map
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

The map is quite interesing, in a couple of ways. It shows the
proposed Northern Line extension from Finsbury Park to Alexandra
Palace (via Highgate HL), but not the section from Mill Hill East to
Bushey Heath (via Edgware).

I hadn't realised that abandonment of these schemes wasn't
simultaneous.

Also, the roundel on the front uses the word 'Railways', rather than
'Underground' - when, and for how long, was this practice current?

(TheOneKEA) wrote in message . com...
Paul Terry wrote in message ...
In message , Bored Of The
Rings writes

Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C?

The 1949 plan shown on the map was abandoned because of cost (before the
war a similar plan had been curtailed to just a 515-foot siding beyond
Elephant).

and where was it gonna be extended to?

A few years ago there was still an illuminated sign at the bottom of
the escalators at Warwick Avenue which showed 'Camberwell' (I'm not
sure if it said 'Green') after Elephant & Castle. It had been painted
out, but some of the paint had come off, and you could make out what
it said.

In message , Chippy
writes

Also, the roundel on the front uses the word 'Railways', rather than
'Underground' - when, and for how long, was this practice current?

1948 to 1956 inclusive, according to the lists in Anne Letch's catalogue
of LT maps.

--
Paul Terry

On 31 Oct 2004 13:38:32 -0800, (Chippy) wrote:

"Bored Of The Rings" wrote in message ...
Whatever happened to the extension south of E&C? and where was it gonna be
extended to?
You can see it here on this old tube map
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

The map is quite interesing, in a couple of ways. It shows the
proposed Northern Line extension from Finsbury Park to Alexandra
Palace (via Highgate HL), but not the section from Mill Hill East to
Bushey Heath (via Edgware).

I hadn't realised that abandonment of these schemes wasn't
simultaneous.

IIRC, the MHE-Edgware/beyond section was dropped first, simply because
it would have taken far too much work to complete, and its entire
raison d'etre was - or had already been - disintegrating fast. The
tracks and stations on Finsbury Park-Highgate-Alexandra Palace were in
use, requiring "only" eletrification, and were steam-worked carrying a
declining number of passengers into the 1950s. I think it's probable
that had this section been completed, some or all of it would
certainly still be in use today. Perhaps Highgate-Ally Pally branch
might be "peak hours only", but the ability to run trains from High
Barnet to Finsbury Park would have taken pressure off the Camden Town
bottleneck, especially if the tacit plans to link up with the Northern
City Line running to Old Street/Moorgate had been followed through.
I'd hate to see what the in-car track diagram would look like, though!
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Nick Cooper wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 1 Nov 2004:

I'd hate to see what the in-car track diagram would look like, though!

Presumably they'd do as they do on the District/Circle lines and have
some and some, according to which destination the particular train
normally served.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 31 October 2004