redtube wrote:
"Phil Richards" wrote in message
T...
redtube wrote:

"A plan to run London Underground services for an extra hour on
Friday and Saturday nights will be put to Londoners, the Mayor
has said.

Oh yeah are they going to put the idea to the Train Ops as well?

So a change to rosters, perhaps. What's wrong with that?

A hell uv a lot thats what You think I want to be faced with turns
finishin at 2am or whatever to cart a load of smashed faced loonies
around that fall asleep, sometimes throw up and often have to be
removed from carriages.Also they will push more night turns on us
and remember we dont get paid any extra any more for night duties
its all thrown in the monthly salary these days whatever hours of
the 24 hour clock worked. Might be different if there was sommat in
it for us.

There is. Five-day, 35-hour working week and 52 days holiday according
to the BBC. Bob Crow and the RMT have agreed a deal which includes the
principles of later running on Friday and Saturday, and also commits to
24-hour working on New Year's Eve. See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4036061.stm

I've just noticed that the report says the deal has been agreed by
"station staff". Not sure if that's significant (not drivers?) or if
it's just sloppy wording.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, redtube wrote:


"Phil Richards" wrote in message
T...
redtube wrote:

"A plan to run London Underground services for an extra hour on Friday
and Saturday nights will be put to Londoners, the Mayor has said.

What decent people travel home at that hour anyway?

Me. I have an experiment to do at midnight tonight.

tom

--
Understand the world we're living in

redtube wrote:
What decent people travel home at that hour anyway?

A large number of revellers who support the central London economy and
therefore London Underground jobs?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

So we disadvantage the early morning traveller getting to work WITH a
ticket, in favour of the drunk, abusive chav, without a ticket, Nurse
Nurse more drugs please.

Mad Von Clinkerhoffen

Phil Richards wrote:
redtube wrote:


"A plan to run London Underground services for an extra hour on Friday
and Saturday nights will be put to Londoners, the Mayor has said.

Oh yeah are they going to put the idea to the Train Ops as well?


So a change to rosters, perhaps. What's wrong with that? Most staff who
finish work late in the day will still have to rely upon getting home by
car or night bus with the existing arrangements, I can't see what extra
difficulties will be met with finishing say an hour or two later two
nights a week.

It seems the case is clear. You can have a later closed close down time
at Weekends at the expense of a later start up time the following
mornings? Perhaps we ought to be questioning whether or not the
maintenance work can be fitted around slightly longer operational hours
by retaining existing start up times and for two nights a week just
loosing an hour or two at the end of the day.

General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 1 Dec
2004:

So we disadvantage the early morning traveller getting to work WITH a
ticket, in favour of the drunk, abusive chav, without a ticket, Nurse
Nurse more drugs please.

But I wonder how many people actually *need* to get to work at, for
instance, 6.00 am on a Sunday? Sure, some do, but it is only a very
small minority of people who would be seriously inconvenienced. Besides
which, AIUI, this is a proposal, not a done deed - and a proposal means
just that - you can write and say "Oi, what about me and my ilk?" and
put the case for the status quo.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 28 November 2004

Oh dear Mrs Redboots.....no one gets to work on the tube at 6am on a
sunday......there is a fair few people getting to work at 7am though. Oh and
a huge amount of people going home from the night before! Always makes an
interesting early shift....the new lovers...the dumped partners.....quite
amazing!!


"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
...
General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 1 Dec
2004:

So we disadvantage the early morning traveller getting to work WITH a
ticket, in favour of the drunk, abusive chav, without a ticket, Nurse
Nurse more drugs please.

But I wonder how many people actually *need* to get to work at, for
instance, 6.00 am on a Sunday? Sure, some do, but it is only a very
small minority of people who would be seriously inconvenienced. Besides
which, AIUI, this is a proposal, not a done deed - and a proposal means
just that - you can write and say "Oi, what about me and my ilk?" and
put the case for the status quo.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 28 November 2004

"Richard J." wrote in message o.uk...
BBC news report at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4031397.stm

"A plan to run London Underground services for an extra hour on Friday
and Saturday nights will be put to Londoners, the Mayor has said. The
last Tube would run at 1.30am, but [the Tube] would not start running
until an hour later the next day to allow time for maintenance work.

TfL will consult Tube users, businesses and workers about the plans over
the coming months. If approved, services would be extended by the end of
2006."

Something makes me suspect that wannabe-late-night-tube-users will be
more vocal during the consultation period than
already-early-morning-tube-users, and we will end up with an hour more
of ****ed people and an hour less of useful workers, but that's just
me being cynical I guess.

--
Larry Lard
Replies to group please

Something makes me suspect that wannabe-late-night-tube-users will be
more vocal during the consultation period than
already-early-morning-tube-users, and we will end up with an hour more
of ****ed people and an hour less of useful workers, but that's just
me being cynical I guess.


I thought it was in the bye-laws that you can't be intoxicated and
travel on the tube

"Chris" wrote in message
om...
I thought it was in the bye-laws that you can't be intoxicated and
travel on the tube

er interesting concept but not likely to be true otherwise there would be
nobody on the trains after midnight!

"redtube" wrote in message ...
"Chris" wrote in message
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I thought it was in the bye-laws that you can't be intoxicated and
travel on the tube

er interesting concept but not likely to be true otherwise there would be
nobody on the trains after midnight!

"4. Intoxication and possession of intoxicating liquor
(1) No person in a state of intoxication shall enter or remain on the
railway.
(2) Where reasonable notice is, or has been given prohibiting
intoxicating liquor on any train service, no person shall have any
intoxicating liquor with him on it, or attempt to enter such train
with intoxicating liquor with him.
(3) Where an authorised person reasonably believes that any person is
in a state of intoxication or has with him intoxicating liquor
contrary to this Byelaw, the authorised person may:
(i) require him to leave the railway; and
(ii) prevent him entering or remaining on the railway until the
authorised person is satisfied that he has no intoxicating liquor with
him. "

From http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/about/byelaw.asp

From my experience, most staff of leisure places open beyond midnight
get a taxi paid for by their place of work so most of the travellers
are revellers and most are drunk