"Chris Fribbins" wrote in message
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R.C. Payne wrote:
MIG wrote:

James Looker wrote in message
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Nick Lawford wrote:

"Peter Masson" wrote in message




There won't be enough 376s to displace Networkers completely from any
route.



There are more than enough to cover specific routes entirely.

36 units must be more than enough to cover a service such as Hayes or
Dartford via Greenwich (and excluding the obvious but silly answer of
Bromley North).

Surely both routes are entirely served from CS/CX so the short
platforms
issue does not arise.

I can't see any reason why they'd diagram in such a way to be 376
only,
but it could be done in theory, which is why I assume the OP
asked the question.

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Nick



Bromley North has been using the new trains and they have also been
down to Orpington and Sevenoaks. The routes through Grove Park are
definetly getting all new Class 376 trains within the next year.



No one seems to have news of a drastic change in the diagrams that
would keep units on specific routes. That's why they can't be kept on
journeys they are best suited to. The are already doing some
"semi-fasts" via Woolwich and Lewisham.


I seem to recall having heard talk that (somehow) these trains were to be
kept off longer distance trips such as beyond Dartford, and people here
(on both uk.railway and u.t.l) pointing out how dificult that would be.
Have TPTB finally given up the idea of keeping them off Gillingham
services and the like?

Robin

They are diagrammed on the 17:46 from Cannon Street to Higham (Strood
when tunnel re-opens in January) every day at the moment - 2 x 5 cars. The
official line is that they will run to Gravesend in off-peak but may be
used on longer journeys to/from Gillingham in the peak (also Orpington
off-peak, Sevenoaks in Peak). In reality seats are likely to become
available at Dartford (Coastbound) or earlier if you walk through the
train (easier than most) and you will get a seat from longer out if you
are London bound - that is if you want one!.

Chris
I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.
Aaron




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Aaron Borbora wrote:

I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.


There's a precedent - they run from London Bridge to Tonbridge using
class 508s.

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John Ray

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:09:10 +0000, John Ray wrote:

Aaron Borbora wrote:

I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham
on stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.


There's a precedent - they run from London Bridge to Tonbridge using class
508s.

a 508 *is* a toilet! :/

Aaron Borbora wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 30 Nov 2004:

I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.

When did you last travel on a train that had a working one? They are
invariably locked out of service, in my experience - and if they
*should* happen to be open, they are filthy and unusable. Cue
old-ladyish mutter of "In my young day.....".....
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In article , Mrs Redboots
writes
I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?

When did you last travel on a train that had a working one?

About 90 minutes ago.

Admittedly this was on WA"not any more, but we can make 365s work"GN.

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Mrs Redboots wrote in message ...
Aaron Borbora wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 30 Nov 2004:

I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.

When did you last travel on a train that had a working one? They are
invariably locked out of service, in my experience - and if they
*should* happen to be open, they are filthy and unusable. Cue
old-ladyish mutter of "In my young day.....".....

Not on South Eastern Networkers for a long time, but to be fair, they
never had them on the EPBs that ran to Gillingham.

Now that they work less and less, the stink isn't so bad. You can
usually get a seat near the toilets because people assume that they
stink and stay away.

In article ,
Aaron Borbora wrote:

I can't believe this - are they seriously planning to run to Gillingham on
stock with no toilets?
This is just absured, it really is.

Such as 2x 4EPB, for instance ...

Nick
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