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Mrs Redboots wrote:
All the same, it is maddening when a definite physical railway-line
exists between the two places that you want to go, but "it is not a
route" so that you have to change trains.


absolutely.... and London is particularly infuriating for that.

I think NR and TfL need to get a handle on cross-London connections.
More intelligent use of existing tracks could ease so many
terminal-to-terminal interchanges. At present the Circle Line is the
usual answer and, frankly, that's never a good thing.

For example, Paddington-WCML could be made easier by Silverlink
stopping more semi-fast trains at Queens Park or Willesden Junction
(would aid NLL too).

Chiltern's West Hampstead plans
(http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/pa...roduction.html)
are an excellent example of the sort of planning required. The
Willesden/Old Oak area would be a superb location for another such
interchange - under 1km between the two lines - though I can't see it
ever happening.

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
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"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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I thought the reason for cutting it back was that the trains were
running empty.

They are not empty, just not overcrowded, while the other trains are often
packed.


OK, not entirely empty, but well under a quarter full, maybe as low as
a tenth, at least whenever I see one arriving at or leaving from
Victoria.

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
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"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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I thought the reason for cutting it back was that the trains were
running empty.


They are not empty, just not overcrowded, while the other trains are

often
packed.


OK, not entirely empty, but well under a quarter full, maybe as low as
a tenth, at least whenever I see one arriving at or leaving from
Victoria.


If you believe the SRA, during the rush hours they are about 80% or so
loaded.
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:02:44 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
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"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
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[Gatwick Express] are not empty, just not overcrowded, while the other trains are

often
packed.

OK, not entirely empty, but well under a quarter full, maybe as low as
a tenth, at least whenever I see one arriving at or leaving from
Victoria.

If you believe the SRA, during the rush hours they are about 80% or so
loaded.


Which, funnily enough, is when I see them most often!

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