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Richard J. February 3rd 05 08:27 PM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
Dave Arquati wrote:
Paul Terry wrote:
In message , thoss
writes

In article
.com,
TheOneKEA writes



No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems
to me that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would
be useful if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is
dependent on how easily Hammersmith station can be modified).
Even if the trains will never be longer, having a platform
bigger than your train makes the T/Op's life much less stressful.



I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which
closed following a fire in 1959.



No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959
was on the Central Line. The new station is on the Hammersmith and
City - so it is in no way a replacement.


Clive believes differently:
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/hammersmith.html


So do I, as I remember White City H&C (then Metropolitan) disappearing
from the Tube maps around 1960. Compare
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clivebi...tube/1960.html with
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/1963.html

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John Rowland February 3rd 05 09:45 PM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even if the trains will never be longer,
having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.


.... and the passengers' lives more stressful.

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That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



TheOneKEA February 3rd 05 10:44 PM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
John Rowland wrote:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even if the trains will never be longer,
having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.


... and the passengers' lives more stressful.


How so? No one on the Wimbledon branch seems to mind.


John Rowland February 4th 05 04:56 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
John Rowland wrote:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even if the trains will never be longer,
having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.


... and the passengers' lives more stressful.


How so?


Because they wouldn't know where to stand until the train stops.

No one on the Wimbledon branch seems to mind.


That's because the drivers of the shorter trains carefully stop at the foot
entrance end of every platform. If they treated long platforms as an easy
target on which they can lazily stop anywhere, the passengers would mind.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Clive D. W. Feather February 4th 05 06:03 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
In article , Paul Terry
writes
No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was on
the Central Line.


And the station on the Central Line in a cutting with two island
platforms, three tracks, and right-hand running is called ...?

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Paul Terry February 4th 05 07:39 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
In message , Dave Arquati
writes

Paul Terry wrote:
In message , thoss
writes


I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.

No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was
on the Central Line. The new station is on the Hammersmith and City -
so it is in no way a replacement.


Clive believes differently:
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/hammersmith.html


Ah, of course. I'd forgotten that the old H&C Wood Lane got renamed
White City for a while. My mistake.

--
Paul Terry

James Farrar February 4th 05 08:24 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:56:27 -0000, John Rowland
wrote:

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
John Rowland wrote:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even if the trains will never be longer,
having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

... and the passengers' lives more stressful.


How so?


Because they wouldn't know where to stand until the train stops.

No one on the Wimbledon branch seems to mind.


That's because the drivers of the shorter trains carefully stop at the
foot
entrance end of every platform. If they treated long platforms as an easy
target on which they can lazily stop anywhere, the passengers would mind.


Ah, so basically they need car stop marks?

James Farrar February 4th 05 08:25 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 07:03:26 +0000, Clive D. W. Feather
wrote:

In article , Paul Terry
writes
No. The White City station that closed following a fire in 1959 was on
the Central Line.


And the station on the Central Line in a cutting with two island
platforms, three tracks, and right-hand running is called ...?


"Oh, arse, I need to change here because they've turned the train round
early".

Stephen Furley February 5th 05 08:46 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
Paul Terry wrote in message ...
In message , Dave Arquati
writes


Ah, of course. I'd forgotten that the old H&C Wood Lane got renamed
White City for a while. My mistake.


Is the new station on the same site as the old one?

thoss February 5th 05 11:15 AM

White City station on Hammermith & City
 
In article , Brimstone
writes

"thoss" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
TheOneKEA writes
No mention is made of how long the H&CR station will be - seems to me
that making it seven (or eight!) cars instead of six would be useful
if/when the new SSL stock comes on the scene (this is dependent on how
easily Hammersmith station can be modified). Even if the trains will
never be longer, having a platform bigger than your train makes the
T/Op's life much less stressful.

I suppose this is a replacement for White City station, which closed
following a fire in 1959.


That's correct, although I don't know about the fire causing closure.

From Edwin Course's "London Railways" (1962):

'The West London and Central Line are crossed over and immediately
beyond Wood Lane [i.e. to the west] is the site of the White City
Station. This was opened in 1908 as Wood Lane (Exhibition) to serve the
White City Exhibition [Wasn't this the Franco-British Exposition, only
acquiring the nickname White City later because of all the glittering
white exhibition buildings?]. It was retained as a normal station until
1914 when, on the opening of a new Shepherd's Bush Station only 300
yards to the south, its use was restricted to special occasions (35) [Is
he suggesting that there were a total of only 35 such occasions?]. In
1947 it was renamed White City; in 1959, being a wooden station, it
suffered badly in a fire and was finally demolished in 1961. The only
memorial to be seen from the line is a variation in the brickwork of the
viaduct parapet.'

Forgive the delay, but I have tried twice before to post this message
and both times it has not appeared. Third time lucky???
--
Thoss


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