TheOneKEA wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Does anyone have news about that? I don't even have an estimated
completion date.


I haven't heard a thing about it lately. I suspect that it will roll
over and sink like the BLE proposals for Camberwell...

Although the redevelopment plans at Elephant and Castle have been
designed so as not to impede any Bakerloo line extension.

A Park Royal bus/train/tube interchange with some sort of
intermediate mode link to Willesden Junction and to Ealing to join
the West London Tram. In any case, there should be high quality
links to a Crossrail station to attract people from the west who
might otherwise drive. Acton Main Line would be a good candidate.

Are you talking about journeys off of the GWML onto the GW link line?

I actually meant there should at least be frequent and fast bus links
between the GWML/Crossrail (e.g. Acton ML) and the Park Royal estate. A
Crossrail branch up the joint line would be an extra step forward but
doesn't really help with access from the west to Park Royal; the
majority of workers at Park Royal currently drive, and I suspect most of
them come from the west.

Ooh, the old park-and-ride problem. I think you'd actually generate
quite a bit of traffic on the A40 to the west as people switch from
the current stations to the parkway one. A parkway station would be
better off further out.


How about a four-tracked terminal station with an island platform where
the GW/GC crosses the M25? There's almost nothing along that part of
the corridor, so there'd be plenty of space for a park&ride.

The "nothing" is all Green Belt land...

And the best part is that Chiltern, Crossrail and the Central Line
would all benefit - Crossrail carries the heavy commuter traffic into
the city, Chiltern carries traffic from local areas along the M25 to
areas north, and people living on the upper part of the Central Line
can interchange to both and reach the parkway station.

The only issue is that Chiltern might want a piece of that commuter pie
as well...

Chiltern would be worried about traffic being abstracted from them if
such a station were built. A lot of people in Chiltern's catchment drive
to a local station at the moment; with a Crossrail P+R they probably
would drive to that instead.

I doubt that a lot of traffic to points north would be generated.
Chances are, if someone is already in their car on the motorway, they
will use it all the way, especially as the M40 serves almost all the
areas that Chiltern does.

Plus there's also the fact that Greenford still has an NR service
to Paddington; if that does get cut back to West Ealing, adding a
mini-curve to the Greenford triangle and running some of that
wasted tph up _there_ could be investigated as well.

Presumably there isn't the traffic for it, otherwise they would have
suggested it.


If the through service is cut back to West Ealing, people will probably
switch to the Central Line anyway.

I should imagine that everyone who could already switch to the Central
line has already done so. The only remaining traffic is probably to
Ealing Broadway or to the local area around Paddington.

Would hypothetical Crossrail trains to Greenford need to cross eastbound
trains from Heathrow & Maidenhead at grade? That could be a disbenefit
to other Crossrail services.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London