I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:

I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My evidence being the 2008 fares booklet - specifically page 19
detailing Oyster PAYG validity on National Rail (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf

....and also the January Oyster PAYG valid routes map (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:19:36 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:

I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My evidence being the 2008 fares booklet - specifically page 19
detailing Oyster PAYG validity on National Rail (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf

...and also the January Oyster PAYG valid routes map (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf

Fair enough - I'm only repeating what I read in an official document
that particularly emphasised this point.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?


They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote: I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

In this case the intermediate stations are deserted halts so the worst
that could happen is there being nowhere to touch out.

U

On Apr 16, 10:19*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:



I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My first thought was that's it's been valid a lot longer than that,
via North Acton.

Maybe if there aren't any ticket checks or barriers on the FGW trains
and stations, it's a recognition that people are going to go that way
anyway.

On Apr 17, 2:53*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? ;-)

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On Apr 17, 9:51*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? *;-)

I was thinking in American (due to an incident at Whitechapel about
thirty years ago that has evidently scarred me for life).