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If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

1. 35 - Shoreditch to Clapham Junction. I'd extend the Shoreditch end to run
to Hackney Central and truncate the Clapham Junction at Brixton. So there
would now be a link between South London and Hackney.

2. 345 - Peckham to South Kensington. I'd reroute this at Brixton so that it
runs along the route of the changed 35 to Clapham Junction

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of such a
short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders all
over the place - a shame, since Sutton seems to have very few links to
anywhere. I'd keep the section from Belmont to Sutton, then reroute the rest
of the route via the route of the 407 up to Purley Way, then the route of
the 289 up to Thornton Heath, then the route of the 109 up to Streatham.

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E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

Finally get the 228 running, from Blackheath via Greenwich centre to
North Greenwich.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/lewgreennews/display.var.484137.0.threearea_bus_route_delayed.p hp

--
Mark Etherington

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E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

Make the C1 a bit more useful (i.e. faster) by diverting it between
Brompton Road and Sloane Street via Pont Street. And use some proper
buses on it during District closures, since it will provide a route
between Earl's Court, South Ken, Sloane Square and Victoria.

Supplement the C3 with another route that runs further afield - the
service from Sands End to anywhere else is a bit crappy. Running a route
from Sands End to South Kensington might be a start; you could even
leave the C1 alone and extend this hypothetical Sands End route from
South Kensington to Sloane Square and Victoria via Pont St & Sloane St.
(I wouldn't use the 360 route as it is plagued by difficult turns and
the inability to maneouvre past Range Rovers).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
...

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

Extend the 41 to Camden Town and Euston, so that there is a decent route
from Turnpike Lane to Camden Town (the 29 is circuitous and tends to suffer
from a severe case of Harringay).

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 28 Feb 2005:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

1. 35 - Shoreditch to Clapham Junction. I'd extend the Shoreditch end to run
to Hackney Central and truncate the Clapham Junction at Brixton. So there
would now be a link between South London and Hackney.

It's not all that many years since it *did* run to Clapton Pond.

2. 345 - Peckham to South Kensington. I'd reroute this at Brixton so that it
runs along the route of the changed 35 to Clapham Junction

Going back to what old bus maps tell me happened some 40 years or so
ago. Originally the 345 and the 45 were the same route, then they split
and the 345 was called the 45a, then the PTB decided to get rid of "a"s
and renumbered them.

Don't know the other two routes you mention. But what I would do, if I
had my way, would be to take either the 109 or the 250 or the 118, and I
don't think it much matters which, and have it turn left at Lambeth Town
Hall and go along Acre Lane, terminating at Clapham Common instead of
Brixton Station. It would make my life *so* much easier....
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 20 February 2005

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In message , E. Zackatackali
writes
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

I'd put the 9 back to Liverpool Street Station (but still with plenty of
short turns to the Aldwych).

Also.......
4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders all
over the place
I don't think I've ever seen a route wander around as much as the 191
from Brimsdown to Edmonton Green. (Although the H13 from Ruislip Lido
to Wiltshire Lane probably has the two closes-to-each-other termini.)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote the following in:


If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would
you do?

15: I'd extend this to Canning Town. Why Blackwall station? It's a
bizarre place for the route to end with the only interchange being to
the DLR. If it continued a few minutes more to Canning Town then you'd
have interchange with loads of buses and trains, making it much easier
for people to continue their journey.

69: I'd like to introduce countdown for a few stops on this route, but
that's purely for selfish reasons. It'd make it much easier for me to
decide whether to catch the bus or walk to the station!

--
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Drinking Special Brew will get you drunk in much the same way that
going to prison will give you a roof over your head and free meals.

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
...
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

1. 35 - Shoreditch to Clapham Junction. I'd extend the Shoreditch end to
run
to Hackney Central and truncate the Clapham Junction at Brixton. So there
would now be a link between South London and Hackney.

2. 345 - Peckham to South Kensington. I'd reroute this at Brixton so that
it
runs along the route of the changed 35 to Clapham Junction

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of such a
short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders all
over the place - a shame, since Sutton seems to have very few links to
anywhere. I'd keep the section from Belmont to Sutton, then reroute the
rest
of the route via the route of the 407 up to Purley Way, then the route of
the 289 up to Thornton Heath, then the route of the 109 up to Streatham.


127 - extend North from Tooting Broadway to somewhere useful, probably
Earlsfield and Clapham Jct.

New route from South to SE London, providing access to key rail stations
without needing to go into London Bridge as at present.
Mitcham-Tooting-Streatham-Dulwich-Catford-Eltham-Woolwich. That would rock
like a *******, that route.

Make all routes cyclic, so that instead of running over the same route
repeatedly, they switch to a different one, eventually cycling through
several routes and getting back to where they started.

Buses would display their next route as well as their current route.

For passengers that would've wanted to change to the new route anyway, they
can just stay on the bus, and for those who don't, the system is no
different from how it is now.

You'd need to abandon strict timetabling, because it's ****ing ****.
Instead, buses should set out from their starting location for any given
route when the next bus on the same route reaches a given trigger point.
Passengers might be sitting on a stationary bus for a while, but they'd only
be waiting at the stop for the same bus anyway.

BTN

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If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

Introduce a direct Harrow to Ealing bus route, linking at least town
centre with town centre. Takes under 20 mins by car; but a very
awkward journey by bus/tube, taking up to an hour, with multiple
changes.


(Or, seeing as this is fantasy, extend the Greenford line to Harrow by
light rail, as someone suggested here recently... if only...)

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4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders all
over the place
I don't think I've ever seen a route wander around as much as the 191
from Brimsdown to Edmonton Green. (Although the H13 from Ruislip Lido
to Wiltshire Lane probably has the two closes-to-each-other termini.)

Apart from the H10 of course - Harrow Bus Stn to Harrow Bus Stn, via
much of the local area :)

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In message , asdf
writes
4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders all
over the place
I don't think I've ever seen a route wander around as much as the 191
from Brimsdown to Edmonton Green. (Although the H13 from Ruislip Lido
to Wiltshire Lane probably has the two closes-to-each-other termini.)

Apart from the H10 of course - Harrow Bus Stn to Harrow Bus Stn, via
much of the local area :)

I nearly added "except for circular routes" to my first posting.......
:-)

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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In article ,
(Mrs Redboots) wrote:

Going back to what old bus maps tell me happened some 40 years or so
ago. Originally the 345 and the 45 were the same route, then they split
and the 345 was called the 45a, then the PTB decided to get rid of "a"s
and renumbered them.

Almost. They overlooked the 77A.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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"asdf" wrote in message
...

Introduce a direct Harrow to Ealing bus route,
linking at least town centre with town centre.
Takes under 20 mins by car; but a very awkward
journey by bus/tube, taking up to an hour, with
multiple changes.

Why not interchange from the 182 to the 83 at Wembley Central?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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Robin May wrote:
"E. Zackatackali" wrote the following in:



If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would
you do?


15: I'd extend this to Canning Town. Why Blackwall station? It's a
bizarre place for the route to end with the only interchange being to
the DLR. If it continued a few minutes more to Canning Town then you'd
have interchange with loads of buses and trains, making it much easier
for people to continue their journey.

There will be a need for a service across the Lower Lea Crossing once
the new Leamouth footbridge is constructed. Extending the 15 would
probably be the ideal candidate for that; the only alternative seems to
be the 277 which goes off to serve Tower Hamlets Town Hall et al. After
the Crossing it could then head up to Canning Town; it's doubling back a
bit but not too much.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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1 Extend the E1 to Yeading White Hart
2 Extend the E9 through the Downe Manor Estate (Down Way/Townson
Avenue) through to Charville Lane Estate3 Terminate the E3 at
Turnham Green Church (avoid the Chiswick High School kids)4 Reroute
the 140 back to Mill Hill and put the 114 back to Harrow Weald

That's a few for starters

In article , (E.
Zackatackali) wrote:

*From:* "E. Zackatackali"
*Date:* Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:08:41 -0000

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

1. 35 - Shoreditch to Clapham Junction. I'd extend the Shoreditch end
to run
to Hackney Central and truncate the Clapham Junction at Brixton. So
there
would now be a link between South London and Hackney.

2. 345 - Peckham to South Kensington. I'd reroute this at Brixton so
that it
runs along the route of the changed 35 to Clapham Junction

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of such
a
short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

4. 80 - Hackbridge to Belmont. This is one crazy route which meanders
all
over the place - a shame, since Sutton seems to have very few links to
anywhere. I'd keep the section from Belmont to Sutton, then reroute the
rest
of the route via the route of the 407 up to Purley Way, then the route
of
the 289 up to Thornton Heath, then the route of the 109 up to Streatham.

Fantasy bus routes
 

Introduce a direct Harrow to Ealing bus route,
linking at least town centre with town centre.
Takes under 20 mins by car; but a very awkward
journey by bus/tube, taking up to an hour, with
multiple changes.

Why not interchange from the 182 to the 83 at Wembley Central?

Because it's an extremely unreliable route. The 182 and 83 are both
prone to delays and bunching; 20-30 mins total waiting for buses
occurs far too often.

It's not even the quickest way with theoretical average waiting times.
Try sticking Harrow-on-the-Hill to Ealing Broadway into the TfL
Journey Planner: it doesn't come up with that route, or indeed any
route with less than 2 changes.

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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

There will be a need for a service across the Lower Lea
Crossing once the new Leamouth footbridge is constructed.

Why does builiding a new footbridge create a new bus demand?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message ...
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

93 - send it all round Lower Morden
293 - send it direct along the A24 into Morden, extend it to St
George's Hospital, and increase the frequency from 3bph to 4bph
470 - cut it back to Morden

N77 - extend it along the 406 route to Epsom

68 - extend it to King's Cross Station

77A - renumber it - I don't care what to, but it bears so little
resemblance to the plain 77

RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

James

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Ian Jelf wrote in message
I don't think I've ever seen a route wander around as much as the 191
from Brimsdown to Edmonton Green.

I've seen worse. PTE subsidised routes can be quite funny. I can't
imagine anyone riding Birmingham's 649/650 out of choice.

James

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In message , James
writes
RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

How about using RMs on it instead?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

(snip)

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of such a
short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

(snip)

The point, I suppose, is to provide a service for the Morland Road and
Woodside Green areas. Just out of interest, what route would it take to
Thornton Heath? Even if it was made into a single-decker service, to get
under the railway bridge at Portland Road, it would have to take a
roundabout route to reach Thornton Heath.

--
John Ray

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Ian Jelf wrote:
writes

RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

How about using RMs on it instead?

How about using RMs on busy routes instead???

As for the RV1, I think the existing buses are as good as anything else
at the moment, but in the future they should consider options such as
battery electric buses.

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E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

In the Sidcup/St.Paul's Cray area:

Extend route R1 to Footscray Tesco
Abolish route R11, increase frequency on B14
Introduce new route (with "mobility bus" type vehicles): One way loop
from FootsCray Tesco to North Cray, FootsCray, Sidcup Hill, Sidcup,
Queen Mary's Hospital, back to Tesco. This would mean that nobody would
lose their one seat ride to QMH and it would reduce parking requirements
at Tesco (provision is inadequate unless they've made some big changes
in the last 16 months) though some slight road alterations (or a second
exit) would still be needed there, as exiting traffic can't turn right.

I'd also make some changes around Orpington, but until I find the
current map, I can't tell you what.

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John Ray wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

There would be four changes I would make:

(snip)

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of
such a short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

(snip)

The point, I suppose, is to provide a service for the Morland Road and
Woodside Green areas. Just out of interest, what route would it take
to Thornton Heath? Even if it was made into a single-decker service,
to get under the railway bridge at Portland Road, it would have to
take a roundabout route to reach Thornton Heath.

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley Road,
Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

EZ

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John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

There will be a need for a service across the Lower Lea
Crossing once the new Leamouth footbridge is constructed.


Why does builiding a new footbridge create a new bus demand?

Because the footbridge links the Leamouth peninsula with the Lower Lea
Crossing (and ultimately with Canning Town station). It will be the
nearest main road to the peninsula which should see some regeneration
once the basic pedestrian links are in place. Currently the nearest bus
stops are the 277 at the far end of Saffron Avenue near East India or
the 115 from next to the Travelodge on East India Dock Road.

For anyone who's interested:
http://www.leamouthbridge.com
http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/72

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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In message , Aidan Stanger
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:
writes

RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

How about using RMs on it instead?

How about using RMs on busy routes instead???
Well, yes I agree with you wholeheartedly but I think we've done that
one to death somewhat! ;-)

there is also much to be said for having RMs on a recognisably
"heritage" route. Not the commentary-equipped sightseeing ones but
something covering the central sections of the 11, 9 or 15, for example.

The 15 needs all the buses it can get, anyway, especially on District
Line Closure weekends but also generally. Some of you may remember my
postings here some months ago about the overcrowding on the route
to/from the Tower. This is something I've experienced several times
again since.......

As for the RV1, I think the existing buses are as good as anything else
at the moment, but in the future they should consider options such as
battery electric buses.
Well, when the route was inaugurated, I thought that the GPs-operated
information screens about nearby attractions were a really great,
innovative idea. I even heard many favourable comments from visitors
using the route. But they seem to have fallen out of use (and some
distinctly "ordinary" vehicles appear on the route nowadays in any
case).
--
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Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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In message , Aidan Stanger
writes
Extend route R1 to Footscray Tesco

When I first saw this, I read it as extending the *RV1" to Footscray.
Now *that* would have been some route!
--
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Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

there is also much to be said for having
RMs on a recognisably "heritage" route.

There should be some double deckers over Tower Bridge.
Crossing it in a single decker is no fun.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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James wrote:
"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message ...

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?


N77 - extend it along the 406 route to Epsom


Eeeek. No thanks! The N77 is unreliable enough as it is, and at weekends
it can take a few buses before you can actually squeeze onto one!

Steve

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E. Zackatackali wrote:

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley Road,
Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

Ah. When you said you would "extend" it, I thought you meant that it
would continue on from Norwood Junction to Thornton Heath. What you are
now describing is a diversion, i.e. it will no longer call at Norwood
Junction.

--
John Ray

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E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

153: After it's devious route around Canonbury then turning out of
Liverpool Road into Holloway Road then Seven Sisters Road to Finsbury Park
to be re-routed via Drayton Park and Gillespie Road approaching Finsbury
Park from Blackstock Road.

--
Phil Richards
London, UK
Home Page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

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Restore the split between routes 107/307, so there was once again a
through route from western Barnet to Edgware. Then extend the Edgware
terminus back towards Queensbury as it used to be - doesn't need to go
as far as Queensbury, but sufficient to pass Edgware hospital.

What with Barnet Hospital transferring services to Edgware and a
council that is hell bent on centralising all services at the eastern
side of a borough that is shaped like a polo mint with no definable
centre, Barnet needs far better east/west links.


Restore the direct routing of the 84 to St Albans. The current route
via Potters Bar takes over an hour


Restore the northern 298 terminus to South Mimms - so I can get to the
pub in Ridge for Sunday Lunch.

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I would introduce a proper circular (ahem) route around Walthamstow,
rather than relying almost solely on longer distance routes to provide
service, particularly off the north south corridor.

For instance, the 158 bus that runs up from Stratford-Leyton over Lea
Bridge Road (major cause of delays) - then past Kelmscott
School/Leisure Centre, St James Street Station - Blackhorse Road
Station - down Blackhorse Road the Crooked Billet roundabout (more
delays) then Chingford Mount (past Walthamstow Dogs - more delays) is
the only bus up Billet Road from Blackhorse Road, and is always
heaving. A more sensible suggestion would be a bus from Walthamstow,
down to St James's Street, up Blackhorse Road, round the Crooked
Billet, and back to Walthamstow.

LRT (as it was then) did something similar with the W11/W12/W15 routes
and these buses are also stacked to the gills despite operating up to
every 10 minutes.

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E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with a
new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station. It
always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some short
workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as discussed
elsewhere!) if necessary.

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005
12:31:14 GMT :

Also PLEASE can we have a continuous bus service restored to the Golders
Green/Finchley/Barnet corridor?

This could possibly involve the significant amount of mileage
currently incurred by the 82 running empty between Tally Ho Corner and
Potters Bar, no?


--
'charity begins at home'
- usually an excuse for not allowing it to get abroad
(Chambers 20th Century Dictionary)

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John Ray wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley
Road, Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

Ah. When you said you would "extend" it, I thought you meant that it
would continue on from Norwood Junction to Thornton Heath. What you
are now describing is a diversion, i.e. it will no longer call at
Norwood Junction.

No - it would start at Norwood Junction, carry on down Morland Road to East
Croydon then proceed along the route I have just described from East Croydon
to TH.

EZ

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Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards) with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route instead.

It always seems unfair when waiting at Brixton that Streatham gets about
1000000000 bus routes, West Norwood gets a handful and Herne Hill/West
Dulwich get 1.5, both of which are smelly, overcrowded and operated by
amateurs...

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Also, re-join the two halves of the 63 (ie 63 and 363), with some
short workings Crystal Palace - E&C and Kings X - Blackfriars (as
discussed elsewhere!) if necessary.

No - I think the split is a good thing. Shorter journeys mean more reliable
journeys.

EZ

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E. Zackatackali wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 3 Mar 2005:

I think the only other sections of road that seem to have a higher number of
routes than the A23 Brixton-Streatham must be the A215 Walworth Road or
Oxford Street.

Even still, it's pretty squashed trying to travel between the two
centres in the rush hours. I dread what will happen if the CRT ever
becomes reality and another mode of transport empties out at Brixton!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 20 February 2005

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E. Zackatackali wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:
If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would
you
do?

Duplicate the busiest section of the 3 (i.e. Brixton southwards)
with
a new route numbered 433, if that's not already taken, in the same
fashion as the 2/432 - probably terminating at Anerley Station.

This would mean truncating the 3 at Herne Hill. No point in having a
needless duplicate when you can double the frequency on a route
instead.

Ah, but I was being selfish and suggesting keeping the 3 running all
the way to CP, thus giving West Dulwich a double frequency (with one of
the routes not being affected by Central London snarl-ups, which cause
massive variations in frequency on the 3 at the moment!)