I believe that because SJW station is a listed building/structure, LUL are
required to replace/restore like with like.

If it where a non-protected station, then I would have expected the tiling
to have been changed to Jubilee silver though.

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
I noticed that the restoration of St. John's Wood appears to be
proceeding nicely. However, I noticed that the Bakerloo brown tiling
that once lined the platform wall panels is being replaced with...
Bakerloo brown tiling. NOT Jubilee grey tiling.

Is this intentional?

JMUpton2000 wrote [his top-posting corrected here]:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
I noticed that the restoration of St. John's Wood appears to be
proceeding nicely. However, I noticed that the Bakerloo brown
tiling that once lined the platform wall panels is being replaced
with... Bakerloo brown tiling. NOT Jubilee grey tiling.

Is this intentional?

I believe that because SJW station is a listed building/structure,
LUL are required to replace/restore like with like.

Tube Lines[1] say that "thousands of wall tiles will be removed and
replaced with new hand-made tiles to replicate their original 1900s
character", so it sounds as if they are indeed trying to replicate the
original design (which actually dates from 1939).

[1] Press release http://www.tubelines.com/docs/05_july_04.pdf

If it where a non-protected station, then I would have expected the
tiling to have been changed to Jubilee silver though.

Except that light grey tiles wouldn't provide enough contrast with white
to be an effective design.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:30 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

JMUpton2000 wrote [his top-posting corrected here]:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
I noticed that the restoration of St. John's Wood appears to be
proceeding nicely. However, I noticed that the Bakerloo brown
tiling that once lined the platform wall panels is being replaced
with... Bakerloo brown tiling. NOT Jubilee grey tiling.

Is this intentional?

I believe that because SJW station is a listed building/structure,
LUL are required to replace/restore like with like.

Tube Lines[1] say that "thousands of wall tiles will be removed and
replaced with new hand-made tiles to replicate their original 1900s
character", so it sounds as if they are indeed trying to replicate the
original design (which actually dates from 1939).


What an idiotic waste of time and money, it a tube station for chrissakes.
--
Delenda est Carthago

Greg Hennessy wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:11:30 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

JMUpton2000 wrote [his top-posting corrected here]:
"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
oups.com...
I noticed that the restoration of St. John's Wood appears to be
proceeding nicely. However, I noticed that the Bakerloo brown
tiling that once lined the platform wall panels is being replaced
with... Bakerloo brown tiling. NOT Jubilee grey tiling.

Is this intentional?

I believe that because SJW station is a listed building/structure,
LUL are required to replace/restore like with like.

Tube Lines[1] say that "thousands of wall tiles will be removed and
replaced with new hand-made tiles to replicate their original 1900s
character", so it sounds as if they are indeed trying to replicate
the original design (which actually dates from 1939).


What an idiotic waste of time and money, it a tube station for
chrissakes.

So?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:



What an idiotic waste of time and money, it a tube station for
chrissakes.

So?

So that's why the fares are so high?

--
John Ray

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:34:09 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:


Tube Lines[1] say that "thousands of wall tiles will be removed and
replaced with new hand-made tiles to replicate their original 1900s
character", so it sounds as if they are indeed trying to replicate
the original design (which actually dates from 1939).


What an idiotic waste of time and money, it a tube station for
chrissakes.

So?

Given the very finite levels of time & resources for refurbishment of tube
stations.

Wasting it on hand made tiles + the time/expense of fitting them to a
*single* station just beggars belief.


greg

--
Delenda est Carthago

Is SJW a listed station?

Certainly it's not one of those listed at the back of Capital
Transport's excellant book "Underground Architecture".

In fact, the platforms here have been comprehendively trashed. The
original biscuit-coloured tiles (including the Harold Stabler pictorial
designs), name freeze and associated ceremic roudels have been either
hacked off or crudely plastered over. (I understand Tubelines say they
"might" be able to save "some" of the the Stabler pictorials - not that
they were in any danger until Tubelines got their hands on them!!!)

Replacement tiling does not correctly replecate that which it replaces,
e.g. the contrasting colour banding used as a relief is not of the same
pattern nor being applied in the same places.

The tiles here were generally in a good condition, notwithstanding a
patina of age, and their destruction is nothing short of official
vandalism. This does not auger well for the future of other 'classic'
LU stations under the PPP dictat (i.e. Aldgate East scheduled next for
demolition, and the supposedly 'listed' Bow Road where almost every
existing feature has been removed at footbridge and pltform level.

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The tiles here were generally in a good condition, notwithstanding
a patina of age, and their destruction is nothing short of
official vandalism. This does not auger well for the future of
other 'classic' LU stations under the PPP dictat (i.e. Aldgate
East scheduled next for demolition, and the supposedly 'listed'
Bow Road where almost every existing feature has been removed at
footbridge and pltform level.

On this subject, what have they done to Bow Road? It seems to me that
their "improvement" consists of hiding everything interesting behind a
horribly boring white partition wall that removes all the station's
character. At first I hoped that this wall was a temporary thing during
the refurbishment but it has gradually dawned on me that no, this is
how things are going to stay.

--
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Drinking Special Brew will get you drunk in much the same way that
going to prison will give you a roof over your head and free meals.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
The tiles here were generally in a good condition, notwithstanding a
patina of age, and their destruction is nothing short of official
vandalism. This does not auger well for the future of other 'classic'
LU stations under the PPP dictat (i.e. Aldgate East scheduled next for
demolition, and the supposedly 'listed' Bow Road where almost every
existing feature has been removed at footbridge and pltform level.

I agree with every word. Apart from Kennington (and possibly Borough), all
of the recent refurbishments have been disastrous. Given the limited funds,
replacing the tiles at Manor House and St. John's Wood seems pointless.
Tufnell Park, which I agree probably did merit re-tiling, now looks plain
hideous. The island platform at West Hampstead now looks garish and untidy,
destroying the 1930s simplicity of the original.

"JMUpton2000" security novels @f ree uk.com wrote in message
...

If it where a non-protected station, then I would have expected
the tiling to have been changed to Jubilee silver though.

Is it really policy to make all platforms on a particular line look the
same? That's astonishing.

--
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