On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:45:53 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

I have found it very difficult using the TFL web site to work out
exactly where bus routes go.

Well these sites are more for enthusiasts but they have loads of
information and timetables. I use them in preference to the TfL website
and its rather silly journey planner.

www.londonbusroutes.net for route details, changes etc
www.busmap.co.uk for a downloadable London wide bus map or you can buy
one.

I think I have worked out that I could use bus route 187 to go from near
Finchley Road station to near Queens Park station.

yep that bus links those 2 places. The other alternative would be a 31
from Swiss Cottage to Carlton Vale plus a short walk. This may be out of
your way but the 31 is very frequent although also very busy.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In reply to news post, which Paul Corfield wrote
on Sun, 13 Jul 2003 -
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:45:53 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

I have found it very difficult using the TFL web site to work out
exactly where bus routes go.

Well these sites are more for enthusiasts but they have loads of
information and timetables. I use them in preference to the TfL website
and its rather silly journey planner.

www.londonbusroutes.net for route details, changes etc
www.busmap.co.uk for a downloadable London wide bus map or you can buy
one.

I think I have worked out that I could use bus route 187 to go from near
Finchley Road station to near Queens Park station.

yep that bus links those 2 places. The other alternative would be a 31
from Swiss Cottage to Carlton Vale plus a short walk. This may be out of
your way but the 31 is very frequent although also very busy.

Thanks for all replies. Am coming in from Amersham, usually go into
Marylebone and out on the Bakerloo, but the closure of Bakerloo tube in
the mornings is going to cause delay, so am looking for alternatives.

The Met trains take longer, but would I save by not going into central
London?. I have used the North London Line from Finchley Rd & Frognal
(or West Hampstead) down to Brondesbury Park, but this service is every
15 minutes and if the connections are not right I can end up with quite
a wait. The South Hampstead option offers trains every 20 minutes,
again I could be in for a long wait. I was hoping busses would be more
frequent, I will have a look at the 31
--
Matthew P Jones - www.amersham.org.uk
My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like it
Don't reply to it will not be read
You can reply to knap AT Nildram dot co dot uk

If you can get a 31 you can get off at Kilburn Park and it is one stop to
Queens Park (if you were wishing to go on from Queens Park you can either stay
on the Bakerloo or change to silverlink).

Incidentally, regarding comments on TfL, I have found their route planners
quite handy, eg, on New Year's Eve, they came up with routes I hadn't thought
of by combining stations and all night bus routes, having the times etc. More
recently when I started my journey plan from my own road, it came up with
intersections to specify, quite useful as I'm on a long road without buses, and
proximity to nearby bus routes depends whereabouts on my road you start.
Now if you were to ask my opinion on the tube site, which I've just tried for
information on freedom pass limits (couldn't even find "freedom pass" with a
search, and their "FAQs" page provided no answers), I'd say "silly" was a
euphemism.

On 17 Jul 2003 21:24:33 GMT, (CharlesPottins)
wrote:

If you can get a 31 you can get off at Kilburn Park and it is one stop to
Queens Park (if you were wishing to go on from Queens Park you can either stay
on the Bakerloo or change to silverlink).

Incidentally, regarding comments on TfL, I have found their route planners
quite handy, eg, on New Year's Eve, they came up with routes I hadn't thought
of by combining stations and all night bus routes, having the times etc. More
recently when I started my journey plan from my own road, it came up with
intersections to specify, quite useful as I'm on a long road without buses, and
proximity to nearby bus routes depends whereabouts on my road you start.
Now if you were to ask my opinion on the tube site, which I've just tried for
information on freedom pass limits (couldn't even find "freedom pass" with a
search, and their "FAQs" page provided no answers), I'd say "silly" was a
euphemism.
Correct me if this wrong, but isn't Freedom Pass managed by the
boroughs - TfL merely accept it?

www.freedompass.org?

Rob.
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

Robert Woolley writes
Now if you were to ask my opinion on the tube site, which I've just tried for
information on freedom pass limits (couldn't even find "freedom pass" with a
search, and their "FAQs" page provided no answers), I'd say "silly" was a
euphemism.

Correct me if this wrong, but isn't Freedom Pass managed by the
boroughs - TfL merely accept it?

Indeed you are correct.

(And another point for the previous poster to note; as LU was separate
from TfL until this week, the website was also managed separately. So
any flaws with the www.thetube.com website cannot immediately be blamed
on TfL.)

--
Dave

"CharlesPottins" wrote in message
...

Now if you were to ask my opinion on the tube site, which I've just tried
for information on freedom pass limits (couldn't even find "freedom pass"
with a search, and their "FAQs" page provided no answers), I'd say
"silly" was a euphemism.

Freedom Passes are issued by London Boroughs (or by post offices on their
behalf), not by LU. For information, see
http://www.freedompass.org/info.html.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:45:53 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

I have found it very difficult using the TFL web site to work out
exactly where bus routes go.

Well these sites are more for enthusiasts but they have loads of
information and timetables. I use them in preference to the TfL website
and its rather silly journey planner.

www.londonbusroutes.net for route details, changes etc
www.busmap.co.uk for a downloadable London wide bus map or you can buy
one.

What's silly about the TfL Journey Planner? It's certainly more useful than
a bus map or a set of route timetables for finding the quickest route from A
to B.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)