londoncityslicker wrote:

Sounds like it's going to end up like the San Francisco trams.
Where the two tram routes left (from the city centre area) are mainly for
tourists who want to ride the SF icon.

I imagine you mean the cable cars (there are still plenty of trams).

And there are three cable car routes.
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Michael Hoffman

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londoncityslicker wrote:

Sounds like it's going to end up like the San Francisco trams.
Where the two tram routes left (from the city centre area) are mainly for
tourists who want to ride the SF icon.

I imagine you mean the cable cars (there are still plenty of trams).

And there are three cable car routes.
--
Michael Hoffman

No, he means the trams.

http://www.streetcar.org/ should explain.
The main "Light Rail" routes were put in a subway beneath Market St when the
BART (Metro) was built. But the surface tracks were retained andnow a
fleet of PCC cars and ex Milan Peter Witts ply the F/Market route up Market
and along the Embarcadero to Fishermans Wharf. There a plans for an E
route as well. The subway routes are J,K,L,M,N and you can see how they
(and the F) cars run at http://www.nextbus.com/predictor/stopSelector.jsp
and http://www.sfmunicentral.com/

Graham Harrison wrote:
"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
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londoncityslicker wrote:

Sounds like it's going to end up like the San Francisco trams.
Where the two tram routes left (from the city centre area) are mainly for
tourists who want to ride the SF icon.

I imagine you mean the cable cars (there are still plenty of trams).

And there are three cable car routes.

No, he means the trams.

I think you'll find that the OP has already admitted he actually meant
the cable cars, not the trams.

http://www.streetcar.org/ should explain.
The main "Light Rail" routes were put in a subway beneath Market St when the
BART (Metro) was built. But the surface tracks were retained andnow a
fleet of PCC cars and ex Milan Peter Witts ply the F/Market route up Market
and along the Embarcadero to Fishermans Wharf. There a plans for an E
route as well. The subway routes are J,K,L,M,N and you can see how they
(and the F) cars run at http://www.nextbus.com/predictor/stopSelector.jsp
and http://www.sfmunicentral.com/

I am well aware of the Muni Metro lines. They do not fit his description
of "trams" in San Francisco--two lines used primarily by tourists.
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Michael Hoffman

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londoncityslicker wrote:

Sounds like it's going to end up like the San Francisco trams.
Where the two tram routes left (from the city centre area) are mainly
for
tourists who want to ride the SF icon.

I imagine you mean the cable cars (there are still plenty of trams).

And there are three cable car routes.
--
Michael Hoffman

Sorry, yes I meant the cable car. (there are trams elsewhere in SF)

And yes you are right there are 3 routes in downtown SF.
but the two main routes are the ones predominatly used by tourists and the
follow the same route for the majority of the journey.
In a similar fashion to what they plan to do with the Routemaster. Hence my
comparison.

A.

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"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
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londoncityslicker wrote:

Sounds like it's going to end up like the San Francisco trams.
Where the two tram routes left (from the city centre area) are mainly
for
tourists who want to ride the SF icon.

I imagine you mean the cable cars (there are still plenty of trams).

And there are three cable car routes.
--
Michael Hoffman

Sorry, yes I meant the cable car. (there are trams elsewhere in SF)

And yes you are right there are 3 routes in downtown SF.
but the two main routes are the ones predominatly used by tourists and the
follow the same route for the majority of the journey.
In a similar fashion to what they plan to do with the Routemaster. Hence
my
comparison.

A.

Predominantly they were tourists, but i recall when travelling on it there
were a number of San Franciscans riding the cable car!