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2012 Olympics come to London
Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground...
-- Cheers, Steve. Change from jealous to sad to reply. |
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Reckon Paris would be nice in the Spring of 2012....?
Ou est le Metro ? |
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Steve Dulieu wrote:
Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground... Oh bugger. |
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Alek wrote:
Reckon Paris would be nice in the Spring of 2012....? Ou est le Metro ? Anywhere would be nice, except London and the south east!! |
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Brimstone wrote:
Steve Dulieu wrote: Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground... Oh bugger. I was in Stratford at the time of the announcement. Traffic came to a standstill. The bus station locked up. People couldn't get into or out of the station. And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! |
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Steve Dulieu wrote:
Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground... I'd drink to that but I'm just off to work... -- Kat |
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umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005:
And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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Mrs Redboots wrote: umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. B2003 |
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Boltar wrote: Mrs Redboots wrote: umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. Personally I'm really looking forward to sharing London's transport 'system' with half a million extra people, for a month. -- Larry Lard Replies to group please |
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"Brimstone" wrote in message ... Steve Dulieu wrote: Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground... Oh bugger. Indeed, my thoughts exactly... -- Cheers, Steve. Change from jealous to sad to reply. |
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message ... AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. You've got to feel sorry for Paris (err ... no!) - still, at least they might get what they deserve in 2012: The Eurovision Song Contest. ;-)) |
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Nice to see you looking on the bright side as usual Boltar, the glass is
definatly half empty with you. Boltar wrote: Mrs Redboots wrote: umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. B2003 |
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Boltar wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005:
Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. Improved transport links, new sports facilities, new housing - all a waste of money? To say nothing of overall health improved as more people take up sport? Anyway, I should think an awful lot of it will be paid by Coca-Cola & similar sponsors - "they" say it won't be more than a few pence per inhabitant overall..... -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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In message , Mrs Redboots
writes Improved transport links, new sports facilities, new housing Virtually all of that is happening anyway, as was made clear in the Olympic bid. "they" say it won't be more than a few pence per inhabitant overall..... Have you not seen the figures? The immediate direct tax on London council tax payers will be £20 per annum for a band D property (for my small terraced house it will be £30 per annum). As Baroness Blackstone confirmed in parliament two years ago, this surcharge will continue until the cost of the games has been met. Even then, the most conservative estimates were that this surcharge would raise £56 million a year, and so would have to keep going for more than 11 years in order to raise the £625 million that Londoners are expected to contribute. This is before the inevitable doubling and then trebling of costs seen in every Olympic bid over the last 40 years. No matter - we'll still be paying, since Blackstone added "The duration and total cost of the charge per household would depend on the overall cost of the Games" - i.e. the more they spend, the more you pay. The indirect costs to us all, Londoners and others, go into many billions of pounds on top of that. It pleases me not to be a wet blanket on a day like this, but I am appalled at how people have been taken-in by the euphoria and have failed to look at the costs - if the money involved was spent directly on sport instead of grandiosity (especially sport at the local and school level) it would have done so very much more good. Too late now, of course - however much the builders and planners hike-up the costs, we can't pull out now (as they very well know). -- Paul Terry |
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Mrs Redboots ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : To say nothing of overall health improved as more people take up sport? I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? Why will the fact it's London rather than Paris make a difference in that respect? Anyway, I should think an awful lot of it will be paid by Coca-Cola & similar sponsors The billion and a half *running* costs, yes. The two billion building costs, no. That's being added on to London council tax for the next decade (as well as other sources). - "they" say it won't be more than a few pence per inhabitant overall..... They do not. They reckon £20 per household (based on an exceptionally low band, higher for higher bands) per year. Oh, and if the costs over-run (if? IF?), it's coming out of general taxation. That's all before the diversion of at least TWO THIRDS of lottery money between now and 2012, of course. Your favourite charity got a lottery bid in at the mo? Sorry, it's just been rejected. All so we can have another seven years of the kind of chaos Wembley's redevelopment is causing, with the end result being another Millenium Doom. The good side is that Tony hasn't got a cat in hell's come the next election. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. Hiho. We'll have to take it out on Ken instead. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. |
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Mrs Redboots wrote:
umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. -- I'm also jubilant that London will host the Olympics. And I look forward to enjoying the summer of 2012, getting involved in the numerous events that'll happen and being a spectator at as many of the events as I can. The games will not make London crumble, they will make London stronger. |
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Mizter T writes I'm also jubilant that London will host the Olympics. And I look forward to enjoying the summer of 2012, How much are you willing to pay? getting involved in the numerous events that'll happen and being a spectator at as many of the events as I can. Spectating costs extra. The games will not make London crumble, they will make London stronger. What do you mean? The games will make London popular but uncomfortable for 28 days. I cannot get my head around what you mean by London being "stronger". London is full, and even the Olympic bid acknowledged that the only way the capital will be able to house the visitors to the 2012 Olympics is by turning away 60% of the tourists who would normally come that summer. OK - bad luck for them, but how does this make London "stronger"? -- Paul Terry |
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Paul Terry said:
London is full No London is not. I'm sure you've seen the figures that show that even during the summer Olympics fewer people will be using public transport per day than during the average winter weekday. London frequently absorbs tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and even somtimes millions of people for short periods. We do this at short notice and with ease. |
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I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip
or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? quote But Coe saved his finest masterstroke for the closing moments of the campaign when he delivered a very personal speech to IOC delegates during London's final presentation in Singapore. "When I was 12 years old I was marched into a large school hall with my classmates and we watched grainy pictures from the 1968 Mexico Olympic Games," he told the delegates. "Two athletes from our home town were competing. John Sherwood won a bronze medal in the 400m hurdles. His wife Sheila just narrowly missed gold in the long jump. "By the time I was back in my classroom, I knew what I wanted to do - and what I wanted to be. Thirty-five years on, I stand before you with those memories still fresh. Still inspired by this great movement." /quote -- Peter |
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Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste
of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. The IOC are now voting on which sports should be represented at the London games. I suggest a vote for whinging. We would win gold at that easily. g -- Peter |
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message ... Boltar wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: Can't wait. Hope all the extra tax I'll pay for this pointless waste of money will mean the athletes and the locals in stratford have a whale of a time. Improved transport links, new sports facilities, new housing - all a waste of money? To say nothing of overall health improved as more people take up sport? Anyway, I should think an awful lot of it will be paid by Coca-Cola & similar sponsors - "they" say it won't be more than a few pence per inhabitant overall..... -- "Mrs Redboots" And we all believe "them" don't we! Dave G |
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"Adrian" wrote in message . 244.170... Mrs Redboots ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : To say nothing of overall health improved as more people take up sport? I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? Why will the fact it's London rather than Paris make a difference in that respect? Anyway, I should think an awful lot of it will be paid by Coca-Cola & similar sponsors The billion and a half *running* costs, yes. The two billion building costs, no. That's being added on to London council tax for the next decade (as well as other sources). - "they" say it won't be more than a few pence per inhabitant overall..... They do not. They reckon £20 per household (based on an exceptionally low band, higher for higher bands) per year. Oh, and if the costs over-run (if? IF?), it's coming out of general taxation. That's all before the diversion of at least TWO THIRDS of lottery money between now and 2012, of course. Your favourite charity got a lottery bid in at the mo? Sorry, it's just been rejected. All so we can have another seven years of the kind of chaos Wembley's redevelopment is causing, with the end result being another Millenium Doom. The good side is that Tony hasn't got a cat in hell's come the next election. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. Hiho. We'll have to take it out on Ken instead. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. Seems I got out of London at the right time. I'm also getting out of this country in about 4 years time - my timing seems to be just about perfect! Dave G |
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Ashby writes Paul Terry said: London is full No London is not. I'm sure you've seen the figures that show that even during the summer Olympics fewer people will be using public transport per day than during the average winter weekday. I was referring to accommodation rather than transport. I've read the Costs and Benefits Analysis done by Arup. In section 5.4 they say ... taking into account the typically lower number of London tourists in August, the displacement of normal hotel visitors to London will not exceed 60%. So, yes, of course everyone can be accommodated - but at the expense of a large slice of London's normal tourist trade for that period. -- Paul Terry |
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Peter Goodland ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying : I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? quote But Coe saved his finest masterstroke for the closing moments of the campaign when he delivered a very personal speech to IOC delegates during London's final presentation in Singapore. "When I was 12 years old I was marched into a large school hall with my classmates and we watched grainy pictures from the 1968 Mexico Olympic Games," he told the delegates. "Two athletes from our home town were competing. John Sherwood won a bronze medal in the 400m hurdles. His wife Sheila just narrowly missed gold in the long jump. "By the time I was back in my classroom, I knew what I wanted to do - and what I wanted to be. Thirty-five years on, I stand before you with those memories still fresh. Still inspired by this great movement." /quote 1. I bet he wasn't the fat kid in the corner who always "forgot" his PE kit before that. 2. That was Mexico. Mexico's a long way away. So is there a big difference if it's London? |
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On 06 Jul 2005 18:09:06 GMT, Adrian wrote:
That's all before the diversion of at least TWO THIRDS of lottery money between now and 2012, of course. Source? My understanding is that there'll be a special Olympic Lottery. You're welcome not to participate. -- James Farrar September's coming soon |
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James Farrar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : My understanding is that there'll be a special Olympic Lottery. You're welcome not to participate. I will participate in the Olympic Lottery as fully as I currrently participate in the National Lottery. |
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In message , James Farrar
writes My understanding is that there'll be a special Olympic Lottery. There will be additional lottery games. It is predicted that these will divert income from the main lottery - i.e. many people will choose to enter for an Olympic game rather than their regular one. The Department for Culture, Media and Sport say ... Camelot's estimates, as reviewed by the National Lottery Commission, are that around 60% of the monies raised from the Olympic Lottery games might come from sales diversions from existing games. This could lead to an overall reduction in income to the existing good causes of just over 5% over the seven-year period of the games. They also indicate that "a further £340 million would come from expenditure by the established Lottery sport distributors" (mostly Sport England) - i.e instead of spending money on sport at a local level, the distributors will be directed to spend their money on the Olympics. Furthermore, the department darkly mutters that yet more money may have to be raised by reducing the total percentage of lottery income passed to "good causes" - this percentage can be changed after 2009, it appears. -- Paul Terry |
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In message , Peter
Goodland writes I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? quote "When I was 12 years old I was marched into a large school hall with my classmates and we watched grainy pictures from the 1968 Mexico Olympic Games," he told the delegates. (snip) Seb Coe is the son of a cyclist and grandson of a sprinter. As a member of the Hallamshire Harriers, he was already competing in serious racing at the age of 12, and being coached as a sportsman by his father - in other words, he didn't take up sport after watching the Mexico Olympics! If you want to get kids started in sport, sitting them in front of the telly is not the way to do it. -- Paul Terry |
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"Larry Lard" wrote in message
oups.com... Personally I'm really looking forward to sharing London's transport 'system' with half a million extra people, for a month. And who would they be? The hotels are normally pretty full in the summer, and they won't be any fuller, since the inflated hotel prices will deter any normal holidaymakers from coming here. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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"Kat" wrote in message
... Steve Dulieu wrote: Well we got em, here's to a nice quiet life on the underground... I'd drink to that but I'm just off to work... You've got 7 years to save up for a portable TV so you can watch the Olympics when you're standing on the picket line! -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Adrian wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005:
Mrs Redboots ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : To say nothing of overall health improved as more people take up sport? I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? I know a very great many people who took up ice-skating as a direct result of the world championships coming to the UK in 1995. And that didn't even involve building new ice-rinks, as a temporary ice surface was used. We (the skating community) are all hoping they will come to London in 2008. Why will the fact it's London rather than Paris make a difference in that respect? Because they will have the sports facilities on their doorsteps, not 2.5 hours away by Eurostar. All so we can have another seven years of the kind of chaos Wembley's redevelopment is causing, with the end result being another Millenium Doom. No, the Dome is being used for the Olympics, so they tell me! But a new 50-metre swimming-pool, new athletics stadium, the Dome actually being used.... no way will it be a white elephant! The good side is that Tony hasn't got a cat in hell's come the next election. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. Hiho. We'll have to take it out on Ken instead. Ooops. He's already said he's not standing again. Frankly, if they've done one good thing over the past n years, it's been to support the bid! -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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Adrian wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 7 Jul 2005:
James Farrar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : My understanding is that there'll be a special Olympic Lottery. You're welcome not to participate. I will participate in the Olympic Lottery as fully as I currrently participate in the National Lottery. Yeah, me too! Who wants to pay a voluntary tax??? -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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Mizter T wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005:
Mrs Redboots wrote: umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. -- I'm also jubilant that London will host the Olympics. And I look forward to enjoying the summer of 2012, getting involved in the numerous events that'll happen and being a spectator at as many of the events as I can. The games will not make London crumble, they will make London stronger. Absolutely! Anyway, it's a long way away, all these grumpy old men might be living somewhere else by then.... -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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Mrs Redboots ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying : I don't buy that at all. Who ever took up sport (other than a brief trip or two to the gym) as a result of watching the World Cup/Olympics/Wimbledon? I know a very great many people who took up ice-skating as a direct result of the world championships coming to the UK in 1995. And it was as a result of the championships being *here* (I'll take your word - I don't remember them at all), not as a result of T&D winning everything in sight all over the world? Why will the fact it's London rather than Paris make a difference in that respect? Because they will have the sports facilities on their doorsteps, not 2.5 hours away by Eurostar. IF they live in East London. |
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(CMOT TMPV) wrote: Once upon a time -- around about 7/6/05 08:05 -- possibly wrote: .... As a Merkin, We can see that from your date format - we make that 7th June. Why do Merkins put it like that? - D/M/Y or Y/M/D seem a logical progression, M/D/Y doesn't. It's like quoting a time as 6hrs 40 secs 10 mins. --- Peter Beale |
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Adrian wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 7 Jul 2005:
I know a very great many people who took up ice-skating as a direct result of the world championships coming to the UK in 1995. And it was as a result of the championships being *here* (I'll take your word - I don't remember them at all), not as a result of T&D winning everything in sight all over the world? Indeed - T&D were long retired by then (they were really big in the early 1980s, and then made some kind of comeback in the late 80s, but by 1995 they were concentrating on professional skating). Why will the fact it's London rather than Paris make a difference in that respect? Because they will have the sports facilities on their doorsteps, not 2.5 hours away by Eurostar. IF they live in East London. True, but there will be improved transport links to East London! Make it easier to get to Lea Valley Ice Rink..... ;) -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 23 May 2005 |
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"Peter Beale" wrote in message
.. . In article , (CMOT TMPV) wrote: We can see that from your date format - we make that 7th June. Why do Merkins put it like that? - D/M/Y or Y/M/D seem a logical progression, M/D/Y doesn't. It's like quoting a time as 6hrs 40 secs 10 mins. Yes, I've never understood the logic of the American convention of not putting the DMY in ascending (or decending) order of significance: either DMY or YMD. The latter, while much less common, has the advantage that a date stored as a text string in this format will sort into ascending order of date. Since I'm aware of the potential for confusion, I never write a date as 1/2/2005 because I know it could be interpreted as 1 Feb or Jan 2. Instead I always write it as 1 Jan 2005 to avoid ambiguity. I suspect that more Europeans know about the American convention being different (and the need to avoid ambiguity) than the converse. |
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message ... Mizter T wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: Mrs Redboots wrote: umpston wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 6 Jul 2005: And it was bloody brilliant!! Bring it on! AMEN!! I, for one, am utterly delighted. Whether we actually enjoy living here while it's happening is one thing - but I do think it will, overall, be an excellent thing for London, and contribute enormously to quality of life in that part of the capital after the event. -- I'm also jubilant that London will host the Olympics. And I look forward to enjoying the summer of 2012, getting involved in the numerous events that'll happen and being a spectator at as many of the events as I can. The games will not make London crumble, they will make London stronger. Absolutely! Anyway, it's a long way away, all these grumpy old men might be living somewhere else by then.... -- "Mrs Redboots" This one most certainly will! Dave G |
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