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Does your work
include being at danger from verbal and physical assault from irrational
members of the public, being blown up by irrational terrorists, harried
by an often irrational management, whose actions have often inflamed the
irrational public? I think not.


No one is forcing them to do the job. I don't see why the (rational members
of the) public should have to be at the end of their acid-tongued insults
and sour faces just because they're unhappy with their lot. They could
always go for jobs as prison warders or traffic wardens instead - it would
certainly better suit the average bus driver's demeanour, his total distaste
for the service culture and his total lack of communication or interpersonal
skills.

Ian



Try a genuine smile and a genuine 'good morning' (as appropriate), it
usually works. The driver will feel better and so will you.

I can think of not a few drivers, who see me on the wrong side of the
road, as I come out of my house, who will see me and stop and wait at
the next stop for me. Smiles go a long way.

I write as a non-public service pensioner on less than 500 GBP a week.
So I do not have an axe to grind. Phil Richards has still not told us
what he earns and for what.
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Nicholas David Richards -

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Nicholas D Richards wrote:

I write as a non-public service pensioner on less than 500 GBP a week.
So I do not have an axe to grind. Phil Richards has still not told us
what he earns and for what.


Obviously I'm not prepared to disclose my salary in public except it's way
under £500 per week. And yes it does involve dealing face to face with the
public along with their bad tempers and abuses in a transport/travel
related enviroment.

Satisfied?

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Home Page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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On the subject of bus drivers see my post above about Vauxhall Cross.

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Phil Richards wrote:
Nicholas D Richards wrote:

Obviously I'm not prepared to disclose my salary in public except it's way
under £500 per week. And yes it does involve dealing face to face with the
public along with their bad tempers and abuses in a transport/travel
related enviroment.


A London Transport bus driver earns £8.60 an hour (it's advertised on
the buses). According to European Law a bus driver cannot work for more
than 54 hours in a single week and 90 hours in any two consecutive
weeks.

So assuming our driver does the full 90 hours in 2 weeks he will make
£774 in those two weeks (averaging £387 a week). Even in a week where
he works 54 hours he will make only £464.40 (less than £500).

Tube drivers make more though I don't know why, their job seems less
difficult to do. I don't know how much a bus driver could make if
instead he joined a private coach company.

I do personally think bus drivers are underpaid. I also think that bus
services are generally badly run, especially where 2 different routes
follow the same route for a long period and their timetables are not
synchronised thus leading to bunching. And some routes have too many
buses, there are very few "express" services and very few that go along
primary routes and too many that go down minor roads that are too
narrow. But that is not the fault of the bus driver.

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