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James Farrar wrote:
After pedalling for however long it would take across London, I would not be in a fit state to work. We have no showers available. well **** off and die you fat ******* |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:21:09 +0100, Ross
wrote: work, I can catch a Southern train, or I can take about three hours travelling on multiple buses. Since I don't propose to spen a quarter of the day commuting, I have no option. Bike. Asked and answered. Car. Motorbike. Do you propose to buy me one? Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). -- James Farrar September's coming soon |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:50:52 +0100, James Farrar
wrote: Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). It is possible to buy a vehicle which is exempt from the congestion charge. -- Terry Harper Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org |
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Uncle Fester ) said:
Terry Harper wrote Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). It is possible to buy a vehicle which is exempt from the congestion charge. It's a ******* finding parking for a bus. An alternative fuel car (including dual fuel) is entitled to enter the zone for a tenner a year providing emissions are low enough: http://www.cclondon.com/downloads/Drivers.pdf Likewise electrics are entitled to this discount on another form. See http://www.cclondon.com/exemptions.shtml -- Andrew |
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"Andrew Bell" wrote in message k... Uncle Fester ) said: Terry Harper wrote Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). It is possible to buy a vehicle which is exempt from the congestion charge. It's a ******* finding parking for a bus. An alternative fuel car (including dual fuel) is entitled to enter the zone for a tenner a year providing emissions are low enough: http://www.cclondon.com/downloads/Drivers.pdf Likewise electrics are entitled to this discount on another form. See http://www.cclondon.com/exemptions.shtml -- Andrew |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:50:52 +0100, James Farrar wrote in
, seen in uk.railway: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:21:09 +0100, Ross wrote: work, I can catch a Southern train, or I can take about three hours travelling on multiple buses. Since I don't propose to spen a quarter of the day commuting, I have no option. Bike. Asked and answered. Didn't notice, sorry. Car. Motorbike. Do you propose to buy me one? If you'll buy me one in return. You can buy me a house too, whilst you're at it. Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). What you mean is that "I have another option, but I don't wish to take it because it is more expensive", not "I have no option". Rather different things. Terry Harper has said there are alternative vehicles which don't attract the full congestion charge. I'll take his word for that, and simply suggest that there are options that you are, for whatever reason, unwilling to acknowledge. -- Ross, Lincoln, UK We're *not* afraid http://www.werenotafraid.com |
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"Ross" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:50:52 +0100, James Farrar wrote in , seen in uk.railway: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:21:09 +0100, Ross wrote: work, I can catch a Southern train, or I can take about three hours travelling on multiple buses. Since I don't propose to spen a quarter of the day commuting, I have no option. Bike. Asked and answered. Didn't notice, sorry. Car. Motorbike. Do you propose to buy me one? If you'll buy me one in return. You can buy me a house too, whilst you're at it. Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). What you mean is that "I have another option, but I don't wish to take it because it is more expensive", not "I have no option". Rather different things. Terry Harper has said there are alternative vehicles which don't attract the full congestion charge. I'll take his word for that, and simply suggest that there are options that you are, for whatever reason, unwilling to acknowledge. -- Ross, Lincoln, UK Now now. Don't be silly. Accept that for options to be viable they have to be realistic rather than theoretical. Think of sensible realistic options. For example buying a hybrid car to beat a congestion charge would be silly. Say 220 working days per year x £5 = £1,100. Rather less than the depreciation of an expensive hybrid car so to most salaried p.a.y.e. employees it's not in any realistic sense an option. When I worked in central London my options for getting to work were proper train, District Line or motorbike and I used them all from time to time. Theoretically I could have walked, cycled, used several buses ( oh I forgot two buses and tube could be done but that would have been a pointless waste of time) or even used my car but in no practical way were they options that could reallistically exercised on a regular basis. So they were not options except in some daft schoolboyish arguement. We're *not* afraid http://www.werenotafraid.com |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:28:57 GMT, Tom Haliax wrote in
, seen in uk.railway: "Ross" wrote in message ... work, I can catch a Southern train, or I can take about three hours travelling on multiple buses. Since I don't propose to spen a quarter of the day commuting, I have no option. [big snip] Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). What you mean is that "I have another option, but I don't wish to take it because it is more expensive", not "I have no option". Rather different things. [big snip] Now now. Don't be silly. Why not? Everyone else is being silly, in the "I don't agree therefore any options presented are stupid and irrelevant" sense, so why shouldn't I join in the fun? Accept that for options to be viable they have to be realistic rather than theoretical. [big snip] Yup. But, of course, realistic options rather rely on those they're suggested to being open minded enough to actually realise that they're realistic. I think that's where the sticking point is, which makes the entire conversation pointless, as it seems that any realistic option offered gets an automatic response along the lines of "That's not realistic because I don't like it". Like you say, we're into schoolboy-ish arguments, and there ain't nobody going to win because schoolboy arguments are never won; both sides simply go off in a huff. -- Ross, Lincoln, UK We're *not* afraid http://www.werenotafraid.com |
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"Ross" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:28:57 GMT, Tom Haliax wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Ross" wrote in message ... work, I can catch a Southern train, or I can take about three hours travelling on multiple buses. Since I don't propose to spen a quarter of the day commuting, I have no option. [big snip] Car travel in particular would be more expensive than rail travel, even if there were zero running costs. (A month's C-charge is more expensive than 1/12 of a Gold Card from my station). What you mean is that "I have another option, but I don't wish to take it because it is more expensive", not "I have no option". Rather different things. [big snip] Now now. Don't be silly. Why not? Everyone else is being silly, in the "I don't agree therefore any options presented are stupid and irrelevant" sense, so why shouldn't I join in the fun? Accept that for options to be viable they have to be realistic rather than theoretical. [big snip] Yup. But, of course, realistic options rather rely on those they're suggested to being open minded enough to actually realise that they're realistic. I think that's where the sticking point is, which makes the entire conversation pointless, as it seems that any realistic option offered gets an automatic response along the lines of "That's not realistic because I don't like it". Like you say, we're into schoolboy-ish arguments, and there ain't nobody going to win because schoolboy arguments are never won; both sides simply go off in a huff. -- Ross, Lincoln, UK No I,m not in a huff. I rather like a good arguement. End this as a score draw? |
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