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Fascist cyclists
Every driver is taught that he has to check thorougly for cyclists between them and the pavement before turning left. If you're used to it, it's no problem at all. And lethal if the driver isn't. Agree. But it's an chicken-and-egg-story. If there are not too many cyclists, drivers don't get used. And if drivers don't get used to cyclists, cycling is dangerous and people will think twice before they start cycling. In continental Europe, rules have been adapted to give cyclists the same rights as drivers (i.e. if a cyclist comes from the right, he has priority over the driver). Yep, same here. IMO, this rule increases the average speed cycling and makes the bike a more attractive mode of transport. I think that's more to do with the, umm, flatness of NL... Many area's in the UK are equally suited for cycling. And besides, NL isn't as flat as you might think. The eastern part of the country has its hills. They might not be high, but there are plenty of short but steep hills. And cycling is popular in that part, too. Both as a means of transport and for recreational purposes. |
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"Han Monsees" wrote in message
.. . Every driver is taught that he has to check thorougly for cyclists between them and the pavement before turning left. If you're used to it, it's no problem at all. And lethal if the driver isn't. Agree. But it's an chicken-and-egg-story. If there are not too many cyclists, drivers don't get used. And if drivers don't get used to cyclists, cycling is dangerous and people will think twice before they start cycling. In continental Europe, rules have been adapted to give cyclists the same rights as drivers (i.e. if a cyclist comes from the right, he has priority over the driver). Yep, same here. IMO, this rule increases the average speed cycling and makes the bike a more attractive mode of transport. I think that's more to do with the, umm, flatness of NL... Many area's in the UK are equally suited for cycling. And besides, NL isn't as flat as you might think. The eastern part of the country has its hills. They might not be high, but there are plenty of short but steep hills. And cycling is popular in that part, too. Both as a means of transport and for recreational purposes. But London is far, far hillier than any part of the Netherlands |
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