In message , Clive R
Robertson writes
If anybody's interested, I've uploaded a video of a journey from
Bank[1] to King George V. It was recorded using a cheap camcorder, the
windscreen was not as clean as it could have been, and just after
Canning Town there was a lot of glare from the sun.

The video runs for 21min 33secs and is at
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...65880788185430

If this shows interest, I may do others with a better camcorder. The
original is a 158MB wmv file; perhaps another format may be better.
I will be on the uk.r meet on the Stalybridge parly on Saturday, if
anyone wants to discuss this.

[1] Actually starting from the tunnel portal; the in-tunnel section
came out black apart from the tunnel lights -- it was a *cheap*
camcorder! Can anyone tell me if this portal has a name?

Regards,

Clive

Where does the name King George V come from? Is it from the old KGV dock
system (sadly a shadow of it's former self)?
--
James Christie

"James Christie" wrote in message
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Where does the name King George V come from? Is it from the old KGV dock
system (sadly a shadow of it's former self)?

Yes. Similarly Royal Victoria and Royal Albert on the Beckton branch.
--
David Biddulph

In message , James Christie
writes
Where does the name King George V come from? Is it from the old KGV
dock system
Yes it is.

(sadly a shadow of it's former self)?
It often surprises people to learn that "London" is still an important
port with major dock facilities. It's just that with containerisation
and other changes to logistics and cargo-handling, the docks moved
downstream to places like Gravesend and Tilbury. Although outside
administrative London, they are the direct successors to the original
docks.

Furthermore, the oft-criticised redevelopment of Docklands actually
ranks as one of the best examples of regeneration in the world. Had
the redevelopment path not proceeded as it did, we could easily still
have miles of wasteland from just beyond Tower Bridge all the way out to
Gallions Reach and beyond. And the DLR was a major factor in allowing
what happened to happen.

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , James Christie
writes

Where does the name King George V come from? Is it from the old KGV
dock system (sadly a shadow of it's former self)?

It often surprises people to learn that "London" is still an important
port with major dock facilities.

According to the DfT [1], in 2001 it was the UK's third biggest (and
really, it's joint second with Hartlepool - Grimsby being first), bigger
than either Southampton or Felixstowe.

It's just that with containerisation and other changes to logistics and
cargo-handling, the docks moved downstream to places like Gravesend and
Tilbury.

Not to mention Dagenham, Erith, Purfleet, Thurrock, Shellhaven, Canvey,
the Isle of Grain ...

tom

[1] http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ts_024542.hcsp

--
In-jokes for out-casts

In message , Ian Jelf
writes
In message , James Christie
writes
Where does the name King George V come from? Is it from the old KGV
dock system
Yes it is.

(sadly a shadow of it's former self)?
It often surprises people to learn that "London" is still an important
port with major dock facilities. It's just that with containerisation
and other changes to logistics and cargo-handling, the docks moved
downstream to places like Gravesend and Tilbury. Although outside
administrative London, they are the direct successors to the original
docks.

Direct, but are they worthy?
We still lost a hell of a lot of traffic to places like Europoort,
mainly as a result of the good old unionised London dockers, who refused
to work with containers.
Places like Felixstowe and Tilbury are making up for it now, but it's
taken us 40 years to recover.
The point still stands though, how many of those ships using those ports
are either:

1. Built in the UK.
2. Owned and Registered in the UK.
3. Have a crew from the UK.

Percentage wise, the answer is b*gg*r all.
I'd prefer to think about it as it was, ships covering every available
berth, from companies like BI, ED, Blue Flue, Glen, Brocks, Clan, Ben,
South American Saint, NZSCo, Blue Star, RML, UC, the list is endless.
--
James Christie