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John Rowland wrote:

http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k


Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k


As has Stansted:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...0.001786&t= k


That's a LOT of plumbing.

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peter wrote:
John Rowland wrote:


http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k



Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k



As well as a moving Concorde it would seem
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:06:32 -0000, "Colin"
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"peter" wrote in message
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John Rowland wrote:

http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k


Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k


As has Stansted:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...0.001786&t= k

The one at Stansted is an eerie find if you're just driving around &
it appears out of the woods at about 9 at night!

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Stuart wrote:
peter wrote:
John Rowland wrote:


http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k



Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k



As well as a moving Concorde it would seem


What makes you think it's moving?
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Stuart wrote:
peter wrote:
John Rowland wrote:


http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k


Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k



As well as a moving Concorde it would seem


What makes you think it's moving?


I was going to ask that, there are two stationary ones south of terminal 4.

Ah, found it, there's one just off runway 23 at the north end. Seems an odd
place to be, given it is not on the runway iteself but on the 'hard
shoulder'. 27R appears to be the landing runway, given there's an aircraft
taking off from 27L. On the other hand there appears to be a queue of 5
aircraft in two lines heading for 27R

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Stuart wrote:
peter wrote:
John Rowland wrote:


http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k


Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k



As well as a moving Concorde it would seem


What makes you think it's moving?


Unfortunately, I don't think that Concorde (or any other?) has moved in
a couple of years, but I wonder how they keep it so clean? Do they
sneak out at night and tidy it up, or even tow it back into the hangars
occasionally?

It amuses me that Google has stitched together images of varying
vintages in the Heathrow area (and elsewhere, of course). So, not only
do you see the retired Concorde parked just off runway 23, but you also
see two in-service Concordes at Terminal 4 gates:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.46...3,0.013475&t=k
The latter image must be at least a few months older than the former.


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What makes you think it's moving?


I was going to ask that, there are two stationary ones south of
terminal 4.

Ah, found it, there's one just off runway 23 at the north end. Seems
an odd place to be, given it is not on the runway itself but on the
'hard shoulder'. 27R appears to be the landing runway, given there's
an aircraft taking off from 27L. On the other hand there appears to
be a queue of 5 aircraft in two lines heading for 27R


The Concorde (G-BOAB) alongside Runway 23 is permanently parked there,
and I always look out for it when taking off from 27R. It's one of the
older Concordes and was already grounded (ie, effectively retired) when
Concorde was retired, which is why it stayed at Heathrow. I'm not sure
if they still plan to move it to somewhere in or by Terminal 5 when it's
finished.

See
http://www.extrospection.com/archive...parked_at.html

As for planes taking off and landing on the runways, remember that
Google uses composite images which could easily show both 27R and 27L as
takeoff runways, if one was taken in the morning and the other in the
afternoon, even on the same day. Indeed, it would be perfectly possible
for the same aircraft to be shown several times at Heathrow.


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Graeme Wall wrote:
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"Richard J." wrote:

Stuart wrote:
peter wrote:
John Rowland wrote:


http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.506086...1,0.002494&t=k


Heathrow has one too:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.47...9,0.009495&t=k


As well as a moving Concorde it would seem


What makes you think it's moving?


I was going to ask that, there are two stationary ones south of
terminal 4.

Ah, found it, there's one just off runway 23 at the north end.
Seems an odd place to be, given it is not on the runway iteself but
on the 'hard shoulder'.


I think the plan is to move that Concorde into or next to Terminal 5
eventually. Runway 23 hasn't been used for years AFAIK. The aircraft
stands beyond its southern end have to be cleared first before it can be
used.

27R appears to be the landing runway, given there's an
aircraft taking off from 27L. On the other hand there appears to
be a queue of 5 aircraft in two lines heading for 27R


No, 27L is the landing runway, and the plane on it has just landed and
is turning right into one of the slip-roads or whatever they're called.

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Nigel Pendse wrote:

It amuses me that Google has stitched together images of varying
vintages in the Heathrow area (and elsewhere, of course). So, not
only do you see the retired Concorde parked just off runway 23, but
you
also see two in-service Concordes at Terminal 4 gates:
http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=51.46...3,0.013475&t=k
The latter image must be at least a few months older than the
former.


The image that includes the two Concordes at T4 and the plane about to
land on runway 09L is the one that Google Earth currently uses for the
whole airport. T5 is at an early stage of development and there's no
Concorde by runway 23. The plane about to land on 09L actually appears
three more times as it makes its way down the runway!

Google Maps has updated the central part with a later image showing some
T5 buildings and the Concorde on 23, but the stitching together is very
inaccurate at the western end of 09L.
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I think the plan is to move that Concorde into or next to Terminal 5
eventually. Runway 23 hasn't been used for years AFAIK. The aircraft
stands beyond its southern end have to be cleared first before it can
be used.

27R appears to be the landing runway, given there's an
aircraft taking off from 27L. On the other hand there appears to
be a queue of 5 aircraft in two lines heading for 27R


No, 27L is the landing runway, and the plane on it has just landed and
is turning right into one of the slip-roads or whatever they're called.

Both 27 and their opposite 9) runways are interchangeable for landing
and takeoff. It is not uncommon, particularly in the early mornings to
see aircraft landing alternately on L and then R runways.

There does appear to a regular pattern in that landings on the 27 are
usually on the R in the morning and on the L in the evenings. (The taxi
feeder park is next to the R and we get a lot of noise in the evenings
from the takeoffs)

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