Dave Newt wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

As she'd travelled from a terminal (i.e. Liverpool St) she'd be charged
£5 if she hadn't touched out and 'completed' her journey, so the walk
was worth it!

Thanks - that is what I guessed from memory. Bloody stupid restriction
though - having it valid on a short line, but just random bits thereof.


V annoying, yes. Thankfully pre-pay will be valid on National Rail (NR)
all over London - but not until 2008 at the earliest [1].

It's all down to transport politicking - if TfL had waited for NR to
agree to participate in Oyster Pre-Pay, it would never have been
launched. By going ahead with Pre-Pay and making a success of it on the
Tube, TfL has forced the hand of the wary DfT into agreeing to it's
introduction.

I remember reading something on here where Paul Corfield - who famously
admits to working for LU and was involved in Oysters early days [2] -
saying that London Transport couldn't get the NR TOCs to take this
future smartcard ticket system seriously in the 90's. Though I doubt
there would've been a utopia of co-operation if LT had to have dealt
with a pre-privatisation Network Southeast given the traditional BR/LT
animosity! Perhaps I'm being too harsh.


[1]
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=776

[2] To be honest I'm not sure of what Paul does (and in the past did)
for LU, but he was involved in the Prestige project at some point. AIUI
Prestige is the name of the whole ticketing system run by TranSys for
TfL which includes Oyster smartcards.

On 31 Jul 2006 17:33:40 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I remember reading something on here where Paul Corfield - who famously
admits to working for LU

Not sure that's worthy of fame!

and was involved in Oysters early days [2] -
saying that London Transport couldn't get the NR TOCs to take this
future smartcard ticket system seriously in the 90's. Though I doubt
there would've been a utopia of co-operation if LT had to have dealt
with a pre-privatisation Network Southeast given the traditional BR/LT
animosity! Perhaps I'm being too harsh.

I was the LU Business Client for what became the Prestige Project. Both
the LU specification and NR specification were my responsibility.
Network wide gating and the outline spec for the central system were
also my areas.

[1]
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=776

[2] To be honest I'm not sure of what Paul does (and in the past did)
for LU, but he was involved in the Prestige project at some point. AIUI
Prestige is the name of the whole ticketing system run by TranSys for
TfL which includes Oyster smartcards.

I was involving in LU ticketing for about 12 years - about 5 of those on
Prestige and its earlier incarnations. Prestige is the project name and
also the contract name for the deal with Transys. Oyster is the brand
name for the card.

I have quite deliberately not said what I do for LU today. I'd probably
get death threats if it was publicised :-)
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote:
On 31 Jul 2006 17:33:40 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I remember reading something on here where Paul Corfield - who famously
admits to working for LU

Not sure that's worthy of fame!

and was involved in Oysters early days [2] -
saying that London Transport couldn't get the NR TOCs to take this
future smartcard ticket system seriously in the 90's. Though I doubt
there would've been a utopia of co-operation if LT had to have dealt
with a pre-privatisation Network Southeast given the traditional BR/LT
animosity! Perhaps I'm being too harsh.

I was the LU Business Client for what became the Prestige Project. Both
the LU specification and NR specification were my responsibility.
Network wide gating and the outline spec for the central system were
also my areas.

[1]
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=776

[2] To be honest I'm not sure of what Paul does (and in the past did)
for LU, but he was involved in the Prestige project at some point. AIUI
Prestige is the name of the whole ticketing system run by TranSys for
TfL which includes Oyster smartcards.

I was involving in LU ticketing for about 12 years - about 5 of those on
Prestige and its earlier incarnations. Prestige is the project name and
also the contract name for the deal with Transys. Oyster is the brand
name for the card.

I have quite deliberately not said what I do for LU today. I'd probably
get death threats if it was publicised :-)

This has the makings of a fun game... my three guesses would be:
- Closures manager; deciding what bits of the network to lop off next
(Mill Hill East, here we come)
- Northern line catastrophe planner
- Earl's Court signalling computer (we all know that the actual computer
itself died about 20 years ago and now LU employ someone to flick
switches to light up the destination arrows manually...)

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:56:55 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On 31 Jul 2006 17:33:40 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I have quite deliberately not said what I do for LU today. I'd probably
get death threats if it was publicised :-)

This has the makings of a fun game... my three guesses would be:
- Closures manager; deciding what bits of the network to lop off next
(Mill Hill East, here we come)

Nope.

- Northern line catastrophe planner

I really don't think the Northern Line needs my help on that topic.

- Earl's Court signalling computer (we all know that the actual computer
itself died about 20 years ago and now LU employ someone to flick
switches to light up the destination arrows manually...)

No, not that either.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:56:55 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On 31 Jul 2006 17:33:40 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I have quite deliberately not said what I do for LU today. I'd probably
get death threats if it was publicised :-)
This has the makings of a fun game... my three guesses would be:
- Closures manager; deciding what bits of the network to lop off next
(Mill Hill East, here we come)

Nope.

- Northern line catastrophe planner

I really don't think the Northern Line needs my help on that topic.

- Earl's Court signalling computer (we all know that the actual computer
itself died about 20 years ago and now LU employ someone to flick
switches to light up the destination arrows manually...)

No, not that either.

I'd guess something that begins with an "R" and has "evenue" in there
somewhere :-)

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:05:37 +0100, Dave Newt
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:56:55 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On 31 Jul 2006 17:33:40 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

I have quite deliberately not said what I do for LU today. I'd probably
get death threats if it was publicised :-)
This has the makings of a fun game... my three guesses would be:
- Closures manager; deciding what bits of the network to lop off next
(Mill Hill East, here we come)

Nope.

- Northern line catastrophe planner

I really don't think the Northern Line needs my help on that topic.

- Earl's Court signalling computer (we all know that the actual computer
itself died about 20 years ago and now LU employ someone to flick
switches to light up the destination arrows manually...)

No, not that either.

I'd guess something that begins with an "R" and has "evenue" in there
somewhere :-)

Old job titles did - current one doesn't.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In message , Dave Arquati
writes

This has the makings of a fun game... my three guesses would be:
- Closures manager; deciding what bits of the network to lop off next
(Mill Hill East, here we come)
- Northern line catastrophe planner
- Earl's Court signalling computer (we all know that the actual
computer itself died about 20 years ago and now LU employ someone to
flick switches to light up the destination arrows manually...)

^^^^^^^^
I think you misspelt 'randomly'
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

In message , Dave Arquati
writes
This has the makings of a fun game...
It does, doesn't it?

Snip
While mine would be:
Automated announcements voice on Crossrail.

Olympic Transport Infrastructure (Delays) Manager

Busker Booker
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:33:40 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

In message , Dave Arquati
writes
This has the makings of a fun game...
It does, doesn't it?

Snip
While mine would be:
Automated announcements voice on Crossrail.

I shall probably be retired before that job is advertised.

Olympic Transport Infrastructure (Delays) Manager

Well I am supposed to have the Olympics as part of my overall portfolio.

Busker Booker

Ahem!
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In message , Paul Corfield
writes
Well I am supposed to have the Olympics as part of my overall
portfolio.

Well, Paul, if the Olympics area a mere *part* of your portfolio, then
you must have a *very* big portfolio indeed and I'd love to know how
many hours per week you work! :-))

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk