Ken wrote:

Oakwood used to have an illuminated 'Train Coming' sign OUTSIDE the
station, I assumed to tell buses to wait for the passengers.

Yes, but only for trains FROM london, so not much use to passengers.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:48:20 +0100, John Hearns
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:44:07 -0700, jonmorris wrote:
Apart from that, everything is just fine! When the signs upstairs start
showing arrival/departure times for the lines, I'll be particularly happy.
When you walk down at 0830 to see 'delayed' or 15 minutes showing, it's a
right PITA to walk back up and out to get a bus.

I've never seen that at any Tube station. Putting arrival times displays
in the concourse would result in impatient idiots bolting down the stairs
when it shows "1 minute" for their desired train. It would be a safety
nightmare. Think of how people speed up on the escalators now when they
hear a train arriving at a platform at the bottom.

They have it at some stations on the southern end of the Northern
line, and have recently installed one at GPS. The latter seems to be a
minute or so ahead of the platform dot matrix, thus assuring that if
it says "1 min" you need not hurry to get the train.

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:17:23 +0100, James Farrar wrote:



They have it at some stations on the southern end of the Northern line,
and have recently installed one at GPS.
I stand corrected.

John Hearns wrote:

They have it at some stations on the southern end of the Northern line,
and have recently installed one at GPS.
I stand corrected.

Also Swiss Cottage. I think it's standard for newly-renovated stations.
Do they have one at Queensway?

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John Band
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www.johnband.org

On 21 Sep 2006 03:38:26 -0700, "John B" wrote:

John Hearns wrote:

They have it at some stations on the southern end of the Northern line,
and have recently installed one at GPS.
I stand corrected.

Also Swiss Cottage. I think it's standard for newly-renovated stations.

Correct - it is.

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Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:48:20 +0100, John Hearns
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:44:07 -0700, jonmorris wrote:
Apart from that, everything is just fine! When the signs upstairs start
showing arrival/departure times for the lines, I'll be particularly happy.
When you walk down at 0830 to see 'delayed' or 15 minutes showing, it's a
right PITA to walk back up and out to get a bus.

I've never seen that at any Tube station. Putting arrival times displays
in the concourse would result in impatient idiots bolting down the stairs
when it shows "1 minute" for their desired train. It would be a safety
nightmare. Think of how people speed up on the escalators now when they
hear a train arriving at a platform at the bottom.

All they need to do is not show any sub-1-or-2-minute trains on the
"distant" display. People arriving and seeing they have 3 minutes to
get to the platform will not rush. People arriving one minute later
will not see that train so won't rush for it, but will see the later
trains on their way.

On 20 Sep 2006 16:44:07 -0700, "jonmorris" wrote:

What's going on with the work at Kings Cross for the H&C, Met & Circle
lines? Is there anyone overseeing the work as it progresses?

Apart from the slow gates that ensure nice long queues in the rush
hours (sorry Paul C, but they are not up to the task, at least at the
moment), it seems that both sets of stairs are now marked 'way out'
from the platform. As you might imagine, when a train arrives in the
peak periods on either platform - the stairs become a battle ground.

As you acknowledge the gates are taking far more demand that they will
when the tube interchange traffic is rerouted.

Think of the old stairs, when there were signs/indicators to show which
section you could use (two down, one up and swapped). Sure some people
ignored it, but imagine having NO such guidance! Carnage.

And it seems that if you're going towards Farringdon then the wording
on the walls will tell passengers you are at Kings Cross, only. The
signs also have Eurostar on them!! Are they ahead of schedule for
opening this?

On the other side, going towards Euston Square, it's St Pancras, only.
Yes, the Underground logos are the wall (with Kings Cross St Pancras
marked) but is there any reason for having only half the name on each
platform? My guess is that they're slightly different sizes and half
the signs didn't arrive/were damaged or whatever, but why not wait
until everything can be done at once?

I think my main comment is that the place is still demonstrably "under
construction" and therefore signage may well appear showing things that
are correct for the end state but not now. It is also possible - and I
don't know because I'm not involved with the project - that things are
moving relatively quickly which may mean that any temporary signing is
struggling to keep up.

One more question; will there be any form of ventilation when the
station is renovated? At the moment there are some rooms/offices
inbetween the two sets of stairs with air conditioning units that blast
out huge amounts of hot air. In effect, the platforms have their own
fan heaters in operation. You can feel the heat the minute you get to
the bottom of the stairs and on to the platform.

No idea about this I'm afraid.
--
Paul C


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