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Carry too much on tube
In message , vtk
writes I'd go as far as saying, during peak times, all large luggage should be banned, as should prams and people who don't know where they are going. Yes, a guy with a machete to cut through the gormless tourists at Oxford Circus...... now that is an idea :-) -- Edward Cowling London UK |
Carry too much on tube
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:42:17 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote: I was on the Victoria line tonight and to be honest it was crowded, but the main problem wasn't the number of people, it's the amount they all seem to carry with them these days. Back pack culture ! Everyone seems to need a backpack and then of course a laptop clutched under their armpit. All this carried high up where there is no room anyway. Then when people get on or off all this junk get stuck on other peoples similar loads and gets stuck.... they get angry and snappy with each other, and it becomes unpleasant. How much of this stuff is really needed ? Plus of course we're using energy resources to move all this flotsam around the city. How about a campaign to encourage people for their own comfort and the comfort of their fellow passengers, not to carry non essential baggage at peak times ? Yesterday I was on the District Line from Embankment to Victoria. The number of backpackers with packs 1/2 their size was immense. When they turn, they risk cold-cocking other passengers who can't dodge them. I often wear a small backpack, but take it off when boarding buses or Tube trains. These packs are too big to remove and carry. There are rules against bicycles at certain times of day and on certain lines. Why not a "Backpacks must be carried" rule? Chris "Especially since you have to carry dogs on the escalators." Hansen -- Chris Hansen | chrishansenhome at btinternet dot com |http://www.christianphansen.com or |http://www.livejournal.com/users/chrishansenhome |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:31:55 +0100, Christian Hansen
wrote: There are rules against bicycles at certain times of day and on certain lines. Why not a "Backpacks must be carried" rule? To which the (smart arse) answer is "I am carrying it - on my back". To be fair there have been plenty of posters and signs on the trains asking people to be considerate when travelling with backpacks and to take care if they move suddenly because of the risk of swiping someone. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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In article , Christian
Hansen writes Once many years ago, when I lived in New York, I got on the subway and sat down. A few stations later two people got on carrying a sofa (obviously they were moving house on the cheap). They put the sofa in the area between doors and sat down on it until they got to their stop, when they carried it off again. I've moved a divan bed (in two parts) and mattress across London by tube. But not at peak time. -- congokid Eating out in London? Read my tips... http://congokid.com |
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Small backpacks don't usually bother me too much (I often carry a guitar
across London when I'm doing studio work, so I can't really complain) but what really annoys me is the huge craze for square "suitcase on wheels" thingies. These things could become quite a hazard. Even in non-threatening situations, like hurrying for a train, I'll judge my quickest route across the station concourse (particularly Victoria) by scanning the general movement of people's heads. If I see a gap, I'll make a beeline for it. However, you don't see the slow moving suitcase-on-wheels until you're practically falling over it. Imagine the same thing happening in a stressful evacuation scenario. Still, it *is* very satisfying to give the things a quick kick as you dodge them... watch the owner try to wrestle it back on course ;-) adrian -- http://www.spaghetti-factory.co.uk http://www.custom-transcription.com |
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Adrian Clark wrote:
Small backpacks don't usually bother me too much (I often carry a guitar across London when I'm doing studio work, so I can't really complain) but what really annoys me is the huge craze for square "suitcase on wheels" thingies. These things could become quite a hazard. Even in non-threatening situations, like hurrying for a train, I'll judge my quickest route across the station concourse (particularly Victoria) by scanning the general movement of people's heads. If I see a gap, I'll make a beeline for it. However, you don't see the slow moving suitcase-on-wheels until you're practically falling over it. If you're moving so fast that you're in danger of "falling over" a large suitcase that you've failed to notice, it sounds as if your speed through a crowded concourse is itself a hazard. Don't complain about other people if you can't be bothered to adjust your speed to the conditions. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
Carry too much on tube
On 30/09/2006 01:07, vtk wrote:
I'd go as far as saying, during peak times, all large luggage should be banned, as should prams and people who don't know where they are going. The rule should be, if your journey is not to/from work or totally necessary then you should not travel at peak time. Yes! Can we!! Pleaseeeeee.... Snip |
Carry too much on tube
Edward Cowling London UK wrote: I was on the Victoria line tonight and to be honest it was crowded, but the main problem wasn't the number of people, it's the amount they all seem to carry with them these days. Back pack culture ! Everyone seems to need a backpack and then of course a laptop clutched under their armpit. All this carried high up where there is no room anyway. Then when people get on or off all this junk get stuck on other peoples similar loads and gets stuck.... they get angry and snappy with each other, and it becomes unpleasant. How much of this stuff is really needed ? Plus of course we're using energy resources to move all this flotsam around the city. How about a campaign to encourage people for their own comfort and the comfort of their fellow passengers, not to carry non essential baggage at peak times ? Just some notes (because I've lost track of who I agree and disagree with): Sometimes people have to take stuff with them, and one day it may be you. What has "culture" got to do with it? Backpacks are designed for carrying. Suitcases are designed for stacking. Backpacks can easily be carried up stairs and escalators and through barriers, while suitcases cause blockages and delays. Backpacks worn on the back are a real hazard and waste of space when they are not actually being carried as such, eg when standing in a train. Taking off a large backpack takes a few seconds and a little bit of space, which the people complaining often aren't prepared to give. Some people are perfectly capable of carrying their backpack as long as they don't take it off. Once it's at their feet, they have no means of getting it back on their back other than maybe dragging it to a bench, which don't exist on many modern platforms (eg JLE, DLR), which may tempt some smaller people to keep them on in the train. |
Carry too much on tube
vtk wrote:
The rule should be, if your journey is not to/from work or totally necessary then you should not travel at peak time. My journey, with luggage, is to and from work. It occurs once a week in each direction. The Tube is not just for daily commuting. Indeed, when I was doing so I avoided it like the plague and used buses instead; the only reason I don't do that now is that it takes a very long time and about 3 buses to get Euston to LCY without using Tube and DLR. Neil |
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