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Old November 17th 06, 07:51 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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I am working near Victoria now and when I go to the station to get lunch I'm
often reminded that smoking is still permitted in railway stations.

However, I was wondering if when smoking is banned in pubs and the like next
year will it be banned in railway stations as well? I've done a google but
haven't had any joy.

Anyone know or can point me to a source of information?

P.S. I don't want to start a smoking flame-war; I have my opinions about
smoking but I'll keep them to myself.
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:51:54 +0000, Christian Hansen
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I am working near Victoria now and when I go to the station to get lunch I'm
often reminded that smoking is still permitted in railway stations.


It's permitted in *most* *mainline* stations. Some are covered by the
Fire Precaution legislation - Liverpool St and Birmingham New St are two
that spring to mind. The remodelled St Pancras will be completely non
smoking when Eurostar arrives there. The Tube and DLR have a complete
ban IIRC.

However, I was wondering if when smoking is banned in pubs and the like next
year will it be banned in railway stations as well? I've done a google but
haven't had any joy.


I have no idea at all but it's an interesting question.

Anyone know or can point me to a source of information?


This is the Government consultation document.

http://www.dh.gov.uk/assetRoot/04/13/73/26/04137326.pdf

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It's permitted in *most* *mainline* stations. Some are covered by the
Fire Precaution legislation - Liverpool St and Birmingham New St are two
that spring to mind. The remodelled St Pancras will be completely non
smoking when Eurostar arrives there. The Tube and DLR have a complete
ban IIRC.

St. Pancras is already no smoking (as of last Monday).
They decided to introduce a complete ban early.

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i was hoping that they might stick to banning it in enclosed spaces
(like pubs), but i read in the paper the other day that a london
council has already banned their staff from taking fag breaks - even
when they went outside the building.

the same story mentioned that the council was even pondering banning
smoking in council houses!

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i was hoping that they might stick to banning it in enclosed spaces
(like pubs),


Which of course is awful, that decision should be up to the
landlord/owner of the pub. Smoking should be banned in all publicly
funded/subsidised places, including stations, parks, libraries, and the
street.

but i read in the paper the other day that a london
council has already banned their staff from taking fag breaks - even
when they went outside the building.


Depends on the job, in grunt-work like call centres etc, simply deduct
the time not working from their wage packet. Other jobs are more
complex, but it's up to the employer.

the same story mentioned that the council was even pondering banning
smoking in council houses!


If you can afford to wmoke, you can afford to rent somewhere privately
and not have the taxpayer subsidise you.



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Which of course is awful, that decision should be up to the
landlord/owner of the pub.


A pub is a workplace. I doubt that any employer would make themselves
liable to claims for health injury, which would undoubtedly follow if a
ban were not introduced in pubs but everywhere else.

E.
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i was hoping that they might stick to banning it in enclosed spaces
(like pubs), but i read in the paper the other day that a london
council has already banned their staff from taking fag breaks - even
when they went outside the building.

the same story mentioned that the council was even pondering banning
smoking in council houses

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:51:54 +0000, Christian Hansen
wrote:

I am working near Victoria now and when I go to the station to get lunch I'm
often reminded that smoking is still permitted in railway stations.

However, I was wondering if when smoking is banned in pubs and the like next
year will it be banned in railway stations as well? I've done a google but
haven't had any joy.


Unfortunately I think it will be enforced about as much as the ban on
the use of mobile phones whilst driving is, i.e. the odd show trial
but basically just another piece of law that'll be completely
forgotten about after a month or so.

It might be better enforced in small venues like pubs and restaurants
where licencees and their staff can theoretically be punished, but
that said, go to some of the pubs in Watford or many other city
centres and see how well age laws are enforced - i.e. barely.
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"Peter Frimberley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:51:54 +0000, Christian Hansen
wrote:

I am working near Victoria now and when I go to the station to get lunch

I'm
often reminded that smoking is still permitted in railway stations.

However, I was wondering if when smoking is banned in pubs and the like

next
year will it be banned in railway stations as well? I've done a google

but
haven't had any joy.


Unfortunately I think it will be enforced about as much as the ban on
the use of mobile phones whilst driving is, i.e. the odd show trial
but basically just another piece of law that'll be completely
forgotten about after a month or so.

It might be better enforced in small venues like pubs and restaurants
where licencees and their staff can theoretically be punished, but
that said, go to some of the pubs in Watford or many other city
centres and see how well age laws are enforced - i.e. barely.


Whilst I feel the law on driving with mobile phones could easily be enforced
(remember the law on seatbelts...), I think the smoking ban is perfectly
enforced in Scotland and I see no reason why it won't be likewise in
England.

Michael




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