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In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

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"Fig" wrote in message newsp.tljmp5qam4iaeb@dell...
In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

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Yeah what does Dave mean?


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Must be the plan for the Hammersmith & Circle line, which has to wait
for the new S7 stock to arrive, as there isn't enogh C Stocks about.
The current idea is Hammersmith (Met) - Edgware Road - Aldgate -
Gloucester Road - then either up to Edgware Road or down to Wimbledon.
The Met will then be diverted from Liverpool Street to Barking.

No idea about frequencies or if the service will run past Edgware Road
as a loop?



Fig wrote:

In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

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"Fig" wrote in message newsp.tljmp5qam4iaeb@dell...
In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

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Fig


Yeah what does Dave mean?


There is a plan to replace to rearrange the subsurface lines so that:
- the Metropolitan is extended to Barking instead of the Hammersmith
and City
- the Hammersmith and City and Circle are replace by a new line running
from Hammersmith, via Paddington, Kings Cross, Tower Hill, Victoria and
Paddington to Edgware Road, where it would terminate/reverse.

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On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, C wrote:

"Fig" wrote in message newsp.tljmp5qam4iaeb@dell...
In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.


Yeah what does Dave mean?


Before questioning The Dave, check your scriptu

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/39

Which sayeth:

"2011 - New service pattern

"The peak hour service is currently 28tph on most of the subsurface
network in Zone 1 and is due to be increased to 30tph, to be achieved by
restructuring the service - in particular the Circle line.

"Metropolitan trains would run through from Liverpool Street to Barking,
and the Hammersmith & City service would run partially to Aldgate, and
partially all the way around the Circle terminating at Edgware Road - i.e.
Hammersmith - Edgware Road - Aldgate - Victoria - Edgware Road and
reverse.

"This is meant to give a period of recovery time which the Circle line
currently lacks. Detailed information is available at Tubeprune's site and
District Dave's site.

"Works will be undertaken on the Hammersmith & City line station at
Paddington to relieve overcrowding."

Note that because of the new shape of the H&C (which, AIUI, entirely
replaces the current Circle service), at Paddington, no trains on the
Circle/District platform will go beyond Edgware Road, so should that way
lie your destination, your only option is to go to the H&C platform, which
is easier than the choice you face at present.

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On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:44:12 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

Note that because of the new shape of the H&C (which, AIUI, entirely
replaces the current Circle service), at Paddington, no trains on the
Circle/District platform will go beyond Edgware Road, so should that way
lie your destination, your only option is to go to the H&C platform, which
is easier than the choice you face at present.


Also, the frequency of trains from the H&C platforms to Liverpool
Street will be increased (doubled?). If that didn't happen (i.e. the
only change was that trains from the Circle platforms terminated at
Edgware Road) then it wouldn't be much of an improvement - although,
as you say, the choice would be easier. ;-)

Having said that, I'd hazard a guess that the Hammersmith-Aldgate
service won't run off-peak (otherwise why send the Met to Barking?),
which would mean this increase would only be at peak times.
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"chunky munky" wrote in message
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Must be the plan for the Hammersmith & Circle line, which has to wait
for the new S7 stock to arrive, as there isn't enogh C Stocks about.
The current idea is Hammersmith (Met) - Edgware Road - Aldgate -
Gloucester Road - then either up to Edgware Road or down to Wimbledon.
The Met will then be diverted from Liverpool Street to Barking.

No idea about frequencies or if the service will run past Edgware Road
as a loop?



Fig wrote:

In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

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Personally I dont see why the Met line has to run to Barking?


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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:47:22 GMT, "C"
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"chunky munky" wrote in message
oups.com...
Must be the plan for the Hammersmith & Circle line, which has to wait
for the new S7 stock to arrive, as there isn't enogh C Stocks about.
The current idea is Hammersmith (Met) - Edgware Road - Aldgate -
Gloucester Road - then either up to Edgware Road or down to Wimbledon.
The Met will then be diverted from Liverpool Street to Barking.

No idea about frequencies or if the service will run past Edgware Road
as a loop?



Fig wrote:

In another thread, Dave Arquanti commented that "The new service pattern
on the Circle and H&C lines will make using Paddington much easier"
Could anyone expand on this please? A brief google has returned nothing.

--
Fig



Personally I dont see why the Met line has to run to Barking?


Because otherwise, if you divert the current H&C to Aldgate instead of
Aldgate East, you've got no trains running between Liverpool Street
and Aldgate East!
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Because otherwise, if you divert the current H&C to Aldgate instead of
Aldgate East, you've got no trains running between Liverpool Street
and Aldgate East!


I think it would be much better idea to force people change at Tower
Hill (or build passenger walk tunnel between Aldgate and Aldgate East)
- current Aldgate junction is too crowded.

Yes, it's additional change for passengers, but it will result in
better service.

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Tom Anderson wrote:
"Metropolitan trains would run through from Liverpool Street to Barking,


Amersham to Barking is a heck of a long way. Could this be a contender
for the longest non stop journey on the tube or is Epping to West
Ruislip still further?

B2003



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