On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:31:51 -0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 16:38:42 on
Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Peter Masson remarked:
It is usual, these days, to have a ticket office window on the "wrong"
side of the barriers... it allows people who don't have tickets for
the journey they've just made to buy one so they can leave the
station.

Really? I thought the practice was to demand a penalty fare from such
individuals (as Cherie discovered).

The passenger may have started at a station where the ticket office was
not
open. If he had purchased a PTT he will not be liable for a penalty
fare,
but will have to exchange the PTT for the appropriate ticket. Trains
which
serve City Thameslink are DOO, so it is not normally possible to
exchange a
PTT for a ticket on the train.

Yes, that's a possibility, but for a tiny minority of passengers. I
expect the rest will be asked to pay a penalty fare.

You are a Doubting Thomas aren't you! When me and my mate visited our
girlfriends in Radlett, we would ALWAYS buy a 5p PTT on the way home. And
we were the shyest of shysters going. Unfortunately, the ticket office at
West Hampstead was always shut as well. C'est la vie! 5p or the risk of a
PF? Your choice.

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In message , at 13:11:11 on
Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
2 - have they installed enough gates at both ends of the station
(available space permitting) to avoid a repeat of the peak-hour crush
at Farringdon?

There's a single escalator up from the platform, and that's more likely
to be the bottleneck.
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:11:11 GMT, Sky Rider
wrote:
Recently I've noticed that a mixture of automatic and manual ticket
gates are being installed at City Thameslink. What I'd like to know is:
1 - why the gates at the Holborn Viaduct end are installed in a position
such that one of the ticket office windows is subsequently located in
the 'paid-area' of the station (once the gateline goes live),


For payment of excess fares? Such windows are common.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:14:00 +0000, Tony Polson wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:11:11 GMT, Sky Rider
wrote:
Recently I've noticed that a mixture of automatic and manual ticket
gates are being installed at City Thameslink. What I'd like to know is:
1 - why the gates at the Holborn Viaduct end are installed in a position
such that one of the ticket office windows is subsequently located in
the 'paid-area' of the station (once the gateline goes live),


For payment of excess fares? Such windows are common.

The one at Leeds usually has a long queue in front of it. This is
principally due to it being physically impossible for a guard to cope
adequately with ticket sales on heavily-laden suburban trains with
frequent stops.

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Mike

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On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:11:11PM +0000, Sky Rider wrote:

2 - have they installed enough gates at both ends of the station
(available space permitting) to avoid a repeat of the peak-hour crush at
Farringdon?

At least when I've used City Thameslink it's not been particularly busy.
This is normally at the end of the morning peak, at a time when London
Bridge (for example) is heaving.

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David Cantrell wrote:
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:11:11PM +0000, Sky Rider wrote:

2 - have they installed enough gates at both ends of the station
(available space permitting) to avoid a repeat of the peak-hour crush at
Farringdon?

At least when I've used City Thameslink it's not been particularly busy.
This is normally at the end of the morning peak, at a time when London
Bridge (for example) is heaving.

Maybe it's something to do with Blackfriars and Farringdon both having
more trains to more places, but only being a short walk away (which is
particularly relevant given the sluggish journey on trains between these
stations!).

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