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In ups.com,
Tom Page typed:

It would also be nice if people here could show a little compassion -
it is nigh on impossible to envisage what someone trying to kill
themselves has going through their mind, but I imagine it is both
extremely complicated and not always very rational. When someone has
got to such a state they feel death is the better option we should
have pitty for them.


It's also nigh on impossible to envisage what somebody clearing up
afterwards has going through their mind. It would be nice for them to
be able to get on with their job without the worry of trains moving
around them and without them having people gawping at their unpleasant
task.



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An edited chronology of events from the LU intranet:

19.27 - male identified as beneath second car
19.33 - LFB and LAS on site
19.48 - male confirmed as deceased and incident as deliberate act
19.54 - Breakdown lorries on site - state male in 'four foot'.
20.20 - Duty Manager Trains and police investigating CCTV tapes to
determine cause of incident, prior to removal of body.
20.45 - CCTV evidence inconclusive, police interviewing further
witnesses
21.10 - Stratford (Jubilee) re-open.
21.38 - police advise non-suspicious following further witness
statements
21.47 - traction current charged to move train back
21.56 - train moving back over body
22.05 - current off to remove body
22.20 - body off track onto platform
22.24 - incident train on move
22.25 - service resumed, with Stratford remaining closed
22.51 - Stratford open

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If there is ever a suspicion that a "one under" was a deliberate act
by another party, it's almost always a much longer job - entire
station closed, scene of crime officers called in etc. etc.
Sounds to me that, under the circumstances, it didn't take an
unreasonable amount of time. And let's face it, if that was your
loved one under the train, you'd want them to ensure that no evidence
was missed even if it did mean more inconvenience to other people.

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On 4 Feb, 17:07, wrote:
If there is ever a suspicion that a "one under" was a deliberate act
by another party, it's almost always a much longer job - entire
station closed, scene of crime officers called in etc. etc.
Sounds to me that, under the circumstances, it didn't take an
unreasonable amount of time. And let's face it, if that was your
loved one under the train, you'd want them to ensure that no evidence
was missed even if it did mean more inconvenience to other people.



Does anyone know how many "one unders" are deliberate acts by third
parties?

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Does anyone know how many "one unders" are deliberate acts by third
parties?


I don't think it's that many, but not unheard of either. Off the top
of my head there was the Vic line one at Highbury last summer (the guy
was pushed under the train), there was the Picc line one at Earl's
Court (I think) where a bunch of students were messing around and one
of them plus a bystander went under a train (unfortunately the
bystander died). There was one on the Central at Mile End a couple of
years back (another one who was pushed). I'm sure there are others
which slipped my mind.....I think the majority of one unders are
either suicide attempts or accidents, but acts by 3rd parties do
happen, and I think the police have to consider all possibilities.



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On 2 Feb, 15:13, wrote:
An edited chronology of events from the LU intranet:

19.27 - male identified as beneath second car
19.33 - LFB and LAS on site
19.48 - male confirmed as deceased and incident as deliberate act


Eastbound Central line was still running as the station was being
evacuated. We stopped, disgorged people onto the platform, platform
announcments saying to evacuate the station, but our train wasn't
evacuated. I guess I was on the last train through.

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