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MIG wrote:

An unfortunate thing to do but, unlike a closing door, it wouldn't
actually squash someone and risk any other number of consequences,
such as falling, bits getting caught etc.

Are the doors really that forceful?

Why can't the doors be equipped with a bounce-back feature that reopens
them if they hit an obstruction? I can understand not implementing such
a feature when the doors are closing so the train can leave the station,
but if the doors are closing merely for passenger comfort (and the train
isn't about to leave just yet), then such a feature wouldn't delay service.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

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On Feb 19, 5:16 pm, David of Broadway
wrote:
MIG wrote:
An unfortunate thing to do but, unlike a closing door, it wouldn't
actually squash someone and risk any other number of consequences,
such as falling, bits getting caught etc.

Are the doors really that forceful?

Why can't the doors be equipped with a bounce-back feature that reopens
them if they hit an obstruction? I can understand not implementing such
a feature when the doors are closing so the train can leave the station,
but if the doors are closing merely for passenger comfort (and the train
isn't about to leave just yet), then such a feature wouldn't delay service.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA


Hitting someone who is getting on or off a train is likely to cause an
accident. Who knows how frail or surprised they might be. It doesn't
need to crush their bones to be dangerous.

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I have seen them used once on the Drain, during the weekend. 'Came as a bit
of a surprise, to be honest.

"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
They haven't been used for, ooh, seven or eight years now.

When I first moved to London (1997) the doors were only
passenger-controlled in the winter, but after a couple of years they
went to driver control at all times. I know not why. However, TTBOMK,
*no* Underground trains that have passenger-controlled door buttons
actually use them any more.

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Boltar wrote:
Can't LU make their minds up if they want these or not? It seems they
occilate between having them then not on various train types over the
years. Why have they been taken of the D stock? Seems a bit of a
retrograde step.

Perhaps it has something to do with wheelchair users not being able to reach
them.

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MIG wrote:

Hitting someone who is getting on or off a train is likely to cause an
accident. Who knows how frail or surprised they might be. It doesn't
need to crush their bones to be dangerous.

/Likely/? I think you're exaggerating. At least around here, people
get hit by the doors all the time, and the vast majority of the time,
the only problems that ensue are train delays and black-striped clothing.

Again, why not have a sensor that will painlessly reopen the door if it
encounters an obstruction? Perhaps the sensor should be disabled if the
train is about to leave, but if the door is closing only due to
passenger request, there's no harm in reopening if necessary.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

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On Feb 20, 3:03 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Can't LU make their minds up if they want these or not? It seems they
occilate between having them then not on various train types over the
years. Why have they been taken of the D stock? Seems a bit of a
retrograde step.

Perhaps it has something to do with wheelchair users not being able to reach
them.

I can't remember when I've ever seen someone in a wheelchair on the
tube. DLR yes , tube no.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
On Feb 20, 3:03 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Can't LU make their minds up if they want these or not? It seems
they occilate between having them then not on various train types
over the years. Why have they been taken of the D stock? Seems a
bit of a retrograde step.

Perhaps it has something to do with wheelchair users not being able
to reach them.

I can't remember when I've ever seen someone in a wheelchair on the
tube. DLR yes , tube no.

That isn't the way the TfL disability unit thinks.

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Boltar wrote:


I can't remember when I've ever seen someone in a wheelchair on the
tube. DLR yes , tube no.

Have a ride on the Jubilee Line - the part with the accessible platforms.

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On Feb 20, 2:25 pm, John Hearns wrote:
Boltar wrote:

I can't remember when I've ever seen someone in a wheelchair on the
tube. DLR yes , tube no.

Have a ride on the Jubilee Line - the part with the accessible platforms.

I don't use the jubilee much but the times I have been on that section
I've not seen any either. Also I can't see how someone would get on or
off a tube in a wheelchair train in the rush hour without serious
inconvenience to themselves and other people. Its hard enough for
mothers with prams.

B2003

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In article . com,
Boltar wrote:
I don't use the jubilee much but the times I have been on that section
I've not seen any either. Also I can't see how someone would get on or
off a tube in a wheelchair train in the rush hour without serious
inconvenience to themselves and other people. Its hard enough for
mothers with prams.

Folk in wheelchairs can be more nimble than mothers with prams; some of
them will have been 'wheeling' for years, but mothers stop pushing prams
as soon as they can. This means the wheelchair user will be more practiced.

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