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[email protected] May 16th 07 08:00 AM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
This feels like it would have been asked numerous times on here
before, but either it hasn't been or my Google Groups search skills
are not up to the task - apologies if it's the latter!

I've got a Standard Day Return from Crayford to London today (£9.20).
On my way home I would like to stop off in Bexley (the stop before
Crayford), leave the station to drop something off nearby, then return
to the station and finish my trip to Crayford on the next train.

Is this permitted on my ticket? Will I need to plead with the person
manning the manual gate at Bexley or will the gate just return my
ticket to me automatically for later use?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Paul


Mr Thant May 16th 07 08:53 AM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
On May 16, 9:00 am, wrote:
Is this permitted on my ticket? Will I need to plead with the person
manning the manual gate at Bexley or will the gate just return my
ticket to me automatically for later use?


"Break of journey is permitted on outward and return portions of
ticket."
http://ojp2.nationalrail.co.uk/en/pj...etTypeCode=SDR

(annoyingly these pages aren't indexed anywhere and you have to go
through the journey planner or Google)

U


[email protected] May 16th 07 09:30 AM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
On 16 May, 09:53, Mr Thant wrote:

"Break of journey is permitted on outward and return portions of
ticket."http://ojp2.nationalrail.co.uk/en/pj/tr?ticketTypeCode=SDR


Excellent - thank you!

(annoyingly these pages aren't indexed anywhere and you have to go
through the journey planner or Google)


Indeed - although even then you have greater mastery of the necessary
skills than do I: I did actually try the Journey Planner earlier to
see if I could find a page like that but to no avail. All I seemed to
be able to get to was a one-sentence summary of what the 'Open' ticket
type meant. Hooray for Usenet and its helpful populus :)

Paul


Paul Scott May 16th 07 09:33 AM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

This feels like it would have been asked numerous times on here
before, but either it hasn't been or my Google Groups search skills
are not up to the task - apologies if it's the latter!

I've got a Standard Day Return from Crayford to London today (£9.20).
On my way home I would like to stop off in Bexley (the stop before
Crayford), leave the station to drop something off nearby, then return
to the station and finish my trip to Crayford on the next train.

Is this permitted on my ticket? Will I need to plead with the person
manning the manual gate at Bexley or will the gate just return my
ticket to me automatically for later use?


Yes it is permitted, but its probaby best not to assume that the automatic
gates will return the ticket, there'd be loads of hassle if they didn't!
I'd use the staffed gate anyway and tell the staff whta you are doing.

Paul




Mr Thant May 16th 07 09:42 AM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
On May 16, 10:30 am, wrote:
Indeed - although even then you have greater mastery of the necessary
skills than do I: I did actually try the Journey Planner earlier to
see if I could find a page like that but to no avail. All I seemed to
be able to get to was a one-sentence summary of what the 'Open' ticket
type meant. Hooray for Usenet and its helpful populus :)


Click the "more" button next to where it says Open, and it'll list the
actual ticket types separately, and clicking them gets you to a page
like what I linked to.

U


Paul Speller May 16th 07 04:32 PM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
On Wed, 16 May 2007 10:33:54 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

Yes it is permitted, but its probaby best not to assume that the automatic
gates will return the ticket, there'd be loads of hassle if they didn't!
I'd use the staffed gate anyway and tell the staff whta you are doing.


Thanks, much appreciated.

I went to use the staffed gate on my way out at Bexley and was just
waved through without needing to explain anything.

When I returned to the station, I again approached the member of staff
and this time explained what I had done. He suggested trying my ticket
in the gates as they wouldn't swallow it up in this direction so then I
could find out if it worked. Sure enough, the gates opened fine.

Of course, on the way out of the station is another matter - I don't
think I'd like to chance that, as you say!

Oh well, it's all been very useful to know for the future (as well as
this afternoon), anyway.

Paul

Paul Speller May 16th 07 04:33 PM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
On 16 May 2007 02:42:35 -0700, Mr Thant wrote:

Click the "more" button next to where it says Open, and it'll list the
actual ticket types separately, and clicking them gets you to a page
like what I linked to.


Goodness me, they don't make it easy, do they? Thanks for your help!

Paul

Colin Rosenstiel May 19th 07 12:42 PM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
In article ,
(Paul Speller) wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007 10:33:54 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

Yes it is permitted, but its probaby best not to assume that the
automatic gates will return the ticket, there'd be loads of hassle
if they didn't! I'd use the staffed gate anyway and tell the staff
whta you are doing.


Thanks, much appreciated.

I went to use the staffed gate on my way out at Bexley and was just
waved through without needing to explain anything.

When I returned to the station, I again approached the member of
staff and this time explained what I had done. He suggested trying my
ticket in the gates as they wouldn't swallow it up in this direction so


then I could find out if it worked. Sure enough, the gates opened fine.

Of course, on the way out of the station is another matter - I don't
think I'd like to chance that, as you say!

Oh well, it's all been very useful to know for the future (as well
as this afternoon), anyway.


My Cambridge-Zones 1 & 2 saver return outward portions don't get taken by
the gates at East Putney. It's hard to see why not but when I asked here
it was confirmed as expected behaviour.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Paul Scott May 19th 07 04:11 PM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Paul Speller) wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007 10:33:54 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

Yes it is permitted, but its probaby best not to assume that the
automatic gates will return the ticket, there'd be loads of hassle
if they didn't! I'd use the staffed gate anyway and tell the staff
whta you are doing.



My Cambridge-Zones 1 & 2 saver return outward portions don't get taken by
the gates at East Putney. It's hard to see why not but when I asked here
it was confirmed as expected behaviour.


No mystery, isn't it simply because East Putney LU is gated as an 'out of
station interchange' with Putney NR?

Paul



Colin Rosenstiel May 19th 07 05:29 PM

Standard Day Return - break of journey?
 
In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Paul Speller) wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007 10:33:54 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

Yes it is permitted, but its probaby best not to assume that
the automatic gates will return the ticket, there'd be loads of
hassle if they didn't! I'd use the staffed gate anyway and tell
the staff what you are doing.


My Cambridge-Zones 1 & 2 saver return outward portions don't get
taken by the gates at East Putney. It's hard to see why not but
when I asked here it was confirmed as expected behaviour.


No mystery, isn't it simply because East Putney LU is gated as an
'out of station interchange' with Putney NR?


But where could I go on a Zones 1 and 2 ticket via Putney? Both stations
are in both zones 2 and 3.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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