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Default Northern line near collision

On 14 Jun, 21:37, chunky munky wrote:
On Jun 14, 9:20 pm, "Clive D. W. Feather" c...@on-the-





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In article .com,
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One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.
You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"?


Um, no signal *does* mean green. Unlit signal - not the same thing -
means red.


Having said that, I can't offhand think of any LU station that doesn't
have a starting signal at the end of the platform.


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There is a rumour that there was a Fixed Red Light but this was
"bagged" over. Dont know about the associated train stop but within
the past few months contractors working for Tube Lines have concreted
one over in error that caused delays to the train service.

Stations without station starters are Croxley (Southbound) and
Chesham, some others do have them a fair way out of the platform.- Hide quoted text -

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Sounds like a good old fashioned misunderstanding - motorman thought
he had been told to take the train back south and assumed therefore it
was a valid movement and that he had been given permission to depart.

A similar incident happened a few years ago at somewhere like Euston,
told to reverse his train (via shunt move) he simply walked to the
opposite end cab and was already to head off wrong line - can't
remember what stopped him. As a result fixed reds were hurriedly
installed at all platform 'wrong' ends presumably with trainstops, but
before starting in other direction they must check the tripcock is
correctly primed, in this case it evidently wasn't.

There would seem to be a gap in driver training.

Rob

 
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