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August 14th 03, 08:51 AM
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August 14th 03, 09:40 AM
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Peter Crosland wrote:
They have the same status as a STOP sign and there does not need to be any other for them to take effect. In what way does a box junction have the same status as a Stop sign? You don't have to stop *before* crossing them, and stopping *on* them is allowed if you are waiting to turn right across oncoming traffic. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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August 14th 03, 12:30 PM
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August 14th 03, 06:50 PM
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:30:11 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote: In the sense that it is a road sign. Parking restrictions and bus lanes require statutory notices to be published to allow them to be enforced. Rather more specifically, parking controls and bus lanes require a Traffic Management Order (under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, as amended) to be made. Box junctions do not. I'm sure our tame barrister on uk.transport.london can fill this bit in. Rob. -- rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk |
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August 14th 03, 08:09 PM
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Peter Crosland wrote:
They have the same status as a STOP sign and there does not need to be any other for them to take effect. Richard J replied: In what way does a box junction have the same status as a Stop sign? You don't have to stop *before* crossing them, and stopping *on* them is allowed if you are waiting to turn right across oncoming traffic. "Peter Crosland" then wrote: In the sense that it is a road sign. Parking restrictions and bus lanes require statutory notices to be published to allow them to be enforced. Many road-signs (as well as markings) DO require statutory notices (Traffic Orders) to make them enforceable, for example a 'no right turn' sign does. So does a 'no entry' sign. But a yellow box doesn't. |
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August 14th 03, 06:49 PM
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:51:15 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote: They have the same status as a STOP sign and there does not need to be any other for them to take effect. STOP signs have to be authorised by the Department for Transport. Box junctions do not. Rob. -- rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk |
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